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Old 04-17-2009, 11:38 PM #1
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Default Baptist Pastor beaten and tazed by border patrol agents in AZ.

This is unreal. I guess everyone is guilty until proven innocent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUzd7G875Hc
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The "secondary search" is the dog sniff. I'm pretty sure most dog handlers wont inform anyone what the dog's response is supposed to be to a positive hit on something. (the response was probably the dog sitting down or maybe barking. Most of the time it's a silent response like sitting) That's probably why they wouldnt tell the guy what the dog did. They dont want people to know what the animal responses are.

Dogs are not infallible anyways. I had my luggage searched when coming back from England because the dog indicated there was a problem. (nothing was there. Only thing I had that the dog could have hit on might have been the 20 pounds of Cadbury's chocolate I had. I had no problem with being searched as long as there wasnt any dog drool in my chocolate)


I dont understand why he wouldnt let them search the car. If he didnt have anything illegal in the car, why refuse? That just makes the police more suspicious. I'd have let them do the search. I dont see the harm in letting them do their job.
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If he wasn't trying to hide anything why did he refuse to answer their questions?

I become immediately suspicious of anyone who uses their religious position to try and convince anyone of their innocence.
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all I can think of is how it looked for him to be evasive at a border search.

How many children were molested by Catholic priests? Didnt a young girl just get murdered by a church worker? How many book burnings have gone on in the name of religion?

So, IF he was allowed into the country, and free pass without having to submit to simple questions like "are you bringing in illegal items to our country?" or "are you hiding refugees in the trunk?" then of course he would be on youtube talking about how slack security is at the borders. He seems a bit cocky, and a smarty pants, and I too would want him stopped for further questions.

THose with nothing to hide, hide nothing. dude! just get out of the car!
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All I know is you don't mess with the border patrol. If you have nothing to hide just get out and do what they say. I'd like to see what prompted the beating to be honest. Makes me wonder if he resisted or something. Beating him like that is not right but those people have a hard job to do and they don't need resistance.
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He's enjoying his fifteen minutes of fame. Probably looking to make some $$ off of it.
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