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06-12-2009, 01:12 PM | #1 | |||
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I hope you saved the voice mail messages. This guy sounds like a "piece of work" (as my Dad would say). He can't sue you....he has no contract.
I'd at least let the neighbors know he did the work (and the name of his company) so if he comes back they can tell you someone was up on your roof if they happen to see him. I wouldn't put it past him to come back and take the repaired part of the roof off! If he threatened you in any of the messages you can file a police report just to have a paper trail. Some people can be so ignorant. He puts a whole new meaning behind the word. BTW....I wouldn't pay him a dime. Or even a penny!
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06-12-2009, 02:22 PM | #2 | |||
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At least he only wants $300 (at least I think that's what you said he wants)
We got screwed out of $10,000 last year by a roofer. We had a bad windstorm that came with lots of large hail. We had a couple of roofers look at our roof, and my dad chose the roofing company that said they would come out and fix the roof, and fix a whole bunch of other things that were damaged in the storm. They came out, fixed the roof (screwed up part of it, that we now have to get fixed again) and never did any of the other stuff they verbally agreed to do. While they were here fixing our roof, they were stealing our larger landscaping rocks that we've had in our landscaping at the last two houses that we lived in and brought with us to this one. I actually saw one guy walking to their car with two of the rocks in his hand. (never confronted them because none of these guys spoke english...I think they were Somali or something, and I wanted the roof to be fixed. Should have reported them) The guy came within a few minutes of them finishing our roof for the check. Everyone else's roofs cost them about $5k to $7k to fix...this guy screwed my dad out of $10,000. Overcharged us. We had another hailstorm earlier this year, so we had a different roofer check it a few weeks ago. No damage this time, but he said the roofers last year screwed up and didnt use metal on the corners and stuff on the roof and that we should repair that in the next few years. I hope you got another roofer to go up and check the work that the sneaky roofer did to your house.
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"Thanks for this!" says: | hollym (06-13-2009), Twinkletoes (06-17-2009) |
06-12-2009, 02:31 PM | #3 | |||
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I am happy you got your roof fixed, but sorry you are dealing with a jerk.
I had advice but have chosen to just give you hugs instead.
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"Thanks for this!" says: | hollym (06-13-2009) |
06-12-2009, 08:40 PM | #4 | |||
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He's a jerk and a bully. No one authorized any work, a good contractor would never start work without a signed acceptance of estimate. A verbal ball-park estimate?. In the real world this not how it's done. Bet he doesn't even carry insurance. He never outlined the scope of his work when he never bidded. Were there any flashings involved, tar-paper replacement. Same roofing material, etc. Sounds like he hopes cheating in small amounts will fill his pocket.
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06-13-2009, 07:21 PM | #5 | |||
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i agree with all the other comments.
i wouldn't pay him a dime. maybe he goes around the community doing this to other people and harasses them into paying him. contact your BBB. call your local DA and/or chamber of commerce and run this by them. you gave him more than enuf respect. he gave you none.
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"Thanks for this!" says: | hollym (06-13-2009) |
06-13-2009, 07:46 PM | #6 | |||
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His statement that he believed your Husband authorized the work will count as a contract for home repair. I would pay him, but tell everyone you know to not never call him for anything. He seems to be a rather ignorant person. At least he did fix the roof.
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"Thanks for this!" says: | hollym (06-13-2009) |
06-13-2009, 08:35 PM | #7 | |||
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Thanks everyone for the thoughts and advice. I talked a lawyer friend here and she said that with no signed quote, this guy can't do anything. We can prove that we were still getting quotes after the date this guy said he authorized it.
I'm going to put aside my hurt feelings and try to not worry so much about what this guy thinks of me. DH listened to the last message last night and he felt the guy was rather defensive which led him to believe that the guy didn't like being called on this. Maybe it was all a big mix up, but the way he handled it was so upsetting. I still don't know exactly what we are going to do, but I don't feel as disturbed. I will still probably pay him just for my own conscience because I still feel responsible because it would feel like I was getting away with something even if he was a jerk and did unauthorized work. I will just think / pray on it a bit.
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"Thanks for this!" says: | SallyC (06-13-2009), Twinkletoes (06-17-2009) |
06-14-2009, 11:58 PM | #8 | |||
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No advice, but, yes. He certainly does sound unprofessional. Hope you can work things out.
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"Thanks for this!" says: | hollym (06-15-2009) |
06-16-2009, 07:51 AM | #9 | |||
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Holly, count your blessings and don't give this guy another thought. Looks like you got your roof fixed for Free.
You are under no obligation to pay this guy. None at all. DAY |
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06-17-2009, 12:48 PM | #10 | ||
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I would not pay him one red cent. I would check with the agency in your state that covers licensed building professionals (the contractors, etc). He sounds like a scam artist who gets his business via intimidation and leaning on peoples "values". Sort of a way to force folks to pay whatever he bills them for.
Be aware that since there was not work order or written, signed estimate (key word "written"), in most states the work was done for free. You also may have needed an inspection and/or permit. Be also aware that payment usually makes it a legal contract so if you pay him you are "on the hook" for any more charges he may want to go after you for. Make sure (if you do decide to pay him) that you mark PAID IN FULL clearly on the check/bank draft and get him to sign a recpt for it that says the same. Listen to your friend the lawyer. I think it would be wise to pay her to draft him a nasty-gram informing him to cease harrassing you. IMHO that is where you should spend your money.
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