Hmmmmmm....don't know- I would definitely tell him what's going on with you. In my experience, the majority of the time that I've gone to mine, it's been the only thing to get my neck out of such pain. But, there's been some times, especially if I wait too long to go in , that I do come out of there hurting a little more than I did when I went in but it passes. I've also heard some people say that a chiro made them much worse and I think that can be a distinct possibility- not all chiros are the same or as good as some others, just like some drs. aren't. So I can see why they might not want to ever go back to one. Your experience sounds pretty bad to me but maybe he'll be able to get you "straightened out". If not, I'm not so sure I'd want to continue going there- just in case you continued to get much worse. I guess if I was you, after you got home and didn't have to drive anywhere else, I'd take whatever muscles relaxers I had ( I can't remember- have you ever tried Zanaflex? Or, is it something you couldn't tolerate?) and a pain reliever and try a heating pad. Sometimes ice is the ONLY thing that will get rid of my pain but I know alot of people here can't use it. The neuro tried me on Baclofen before he tried Zanaflex and it really didn't do me any good- the Zanaflex is the only thing that has helped me. That, and the dose of Elavil (that ya'll would probably think would kill a horse ) that I take at bedtime. Let us know what happens after this chiro visit- I guess we can keep brainstorming.

I have never experienced migraines. My daughter gets them quite often.

But the chiro thing. I was told years ago by a chiro friend that from what I have he wouldn't even touch me. I have tried massage and accupuncture which I believe massage was good but not accu. I've been sticking with the bengay or icy hot on my neck and shoulder every night. Relieves the symptoms if nothing else. On the east coast we are having rain which is killing me. I don't know about anyone else but the weather makes a big difference in pain level.

Starting to get kids ready to go back to school. Not sure if I'm happy or not. #1 daughter a senior. Son a freshman in a Catholic school (costs a fortune, I had to buy his books on line!!), 7th grader and pre-schooler. Keeps me busy! But, makes me extremely happy! Who needs money!

Linda

You had a NUCCA adjustment and got the migraine?
gosh darn it!

I've had c1/c2 adjs , quite a few at the beginning of my chiro tx- I was misaligned for a long time But I never had any problems from it.

what style of adj. did they use ??

a small drop platform ? {my DC uses this type and it is a surprisingly gentle adjustment}
I think there is an pressurized air jet type
and most likely a free hand type of adjustment

Did you call the DC and ask if this is normal or if he can re adjust?
it {C1/C2} may have moved too far during the adjustment??

or the adj may have triggered other things - like muscles spasms or triggerpoints.
possibly go back for a re evaluation?? - if the DC does other modalities??

I would at least call and let him know you are having this problem - see what he says- hopefully he will say "please come back in and let me see why this happened {and not charge $$ for this visit}.

hi, kidz!

well, apparently i've undergone a remarkable transformation over the weekend and i am a wonderful mom again. i've been redeemed somehow through the good graces of godknowswhat, in miss chelsea's eyes...

thank you from the bottom of my heart to those of you who responded to my dilemma, daughters and moms alike - and everyone else, too; i so appreciated the input cuz i tend to lose perspective quickly where that favorite child of mine is concerned.

more importantly, 'dem bonez is healing and chels is on the mend, i am very happy to say. no torn ligaments, no dread nerve injury and she is in good spirits under the excellent care of her USC-trained recently graduated nursy friend, emily, who rescued her from my clutches last week. apparently everything i tried to explain to my daughter medically sounds much more authentic when emily says it. which is just fine with me!

hey, jo! we need a separate migraine thread i fear! you know i don't know how to do that, dear. i know how to have a killer complex migraine, though. i am a veritable expert in that department. but never have i found a med to address that particularly nasty side of the TOS beast, i am sorry to report.

coldpacks, moist heatpacks and a quiet, dark, silent room do me about as good as anything. which are much easier to come by, i do realize, once your children grow up and leave home. or the husband leaves you. and you lose your job. and all your friends stop calling.

i can tell you how to arrange all of that, victoria and shellie, if it would help...

but somehow i don't think that's what you have in mind.

victoria i have to ask you. are you talking about the chiros who only do the C-1/C-2 adjustments, and isn't that supposed to put you in closer alignment with god, or something along those lines? just humor an old sinner and answer the question when you're feeling better...

i trust you're not going to let this same fellow give you another adjustment, however, if he gave you this horrible migraine h/a the first time out? would not think that advisable under any circumstances, at least not while that awful h/a is still raging, my good friend up there in canada, oh! canada!

personally, i could never get chiros to touch me. have too much "going on" in the cervical spine they always said. afraid of a lawsuit i suppose. but i have heard that chiropractic has come a long way since the last time i saw a DC and is much gentler now, so i sure would like to explore that as an option again sometime...

i know joyce is going to chime in right about________ NOW!!!!

hahaha

welcome home, shellie! good to see ya, kid.

alison
"Be Brave"

I have to say here, the chiro I went to for years (also worked for her as a mt) was very gentle- she was a very petite woman but she could get the job done. She retired last year (early 40's- must be nice, huh?) and a man bought out her building, business, patients, the whole shebang. My husband went to him several times and really likes him but I hadn't really needed to go until a few months ago.....Partly, I guess I was dreading it a little because I was so used to her and was afraid he'd snap me like a twig. Well, I did finally give it a try and OMG....He did my neck just fine but, my back .....let's just say that it felt like my spine was now outside my body and that my ribs were flat as a pancake. NOT pleasant. That's not to say that he didn't help me (after I recovered....) but I don't think I can take another adjustment like that on my back. What Sea Pines mentioned about the heat packs, quiet dark room was pretty much how I dealt with the ha's before I was put on this medication and that was 4 yrs. ago and while I still get headaches and severe neck pain occasionally it's nothing like it was before. I take a low dose of Zanaflex during the day but have the option of upping it quite a bit if I need to- that is, as long as I don't want to do anything during the day but sleep. Anybody who has never had a miagraine can't imagine how severe and life-altering the pain is.

Shellie- yes, i did have bad headaches for about 1.5 months after surgery-not sure if they were migraines or not but they really really sucked and nothing that i take helped them. My pt did some craniosacral work and they have been much better since.

so glad to hear you have made it back to us, take it really easy on yourself and rest rest rest.


Victoria- on headaches and muscle symptoms...my left side used to get funny tingles after chiropractic adjustments sometimes. not any more since surgery. No doctor i ever talked to made much of it, even dr J who listens pretty well to everything and accept that alternative treatments like chiropractic can really help you. I think sometimes the adjustment can just get to places where you don't normalyl distrubed our already messed up nerves...i don't have any idea if it is good or bad or benign. SINCE surgery I had a day that I got a massage and they worked on my SCM muscles, and after that I had superintense cluster headaches for two weeks until (as i mentioned above) SuperJoyce did some craniosacral work. I had a few stray headaches before the massage as well but I haven't had any since the craniosacral work.

Hope I am making sense, typing w/kids all over me.

Allie cat- I am very glad to hear you and DD are back in your good graces...I am afraid i wasn't so nice to my mommy when she came out here from far away for my first surgery, hoping to rectify that and be nicer this time around....moms and daughters have this trouble all the time.

It isn't you...it is your biological relationship to your daughter that does it

I made a Migraine with TOS thread here-
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/sh...246#post139246

We haven't had a dedicated thread on that subject here yet.
thanks for the suggestion Alison

hi guys
feeling a bit better now...had another adjustment today. it is a such gentle adjustment you hardly feel it. I was for my first adjustment put on my side and on a chiro table with an adjustable head piece that he puts at a certain angle then barely touches my neck with the side of his hand....he was very concerned about the headaches....but I did say if you move my "normal" around you could impinge vessels, nerves or make muscles twitch and spasm causing the symptoms...he agreed with me.

as for the muscle relaxants I have been on zanaflex and still have some, but only take it when I can be put out like a horse...lol
I literally drool up a storm on it...tried it at 1mg and still same effect but it damn well works!!!!!!!!!!! Only I can't tolerate the lack of life....should have taken it for the headache...still aches on the side of my head and is not so nice so perhaps I will take it at bedtime...

you guys are the greatest!!!!!!!!!!!!
love and hugs,
Victoria

Oh, good I'm glad to hear that you're feeling better - I was worried that you might not want to go back and give him another try at it - to see if he could fix you up better.