Mark someone on the spinal or RSD?? forum was asking about RSD in the C/T spine. This evening i will see if i can track it down.

My C/T area only hurts if i bend over and lift anything heavy - that's why I think the one dr might have been correct about the chronic C/T spine strain part- but he didn't say a peep about TOS or myofascial pain at all. I should have just flat out asked him about it. But that drs own PT guy did do all the tests that the dr didn't do and he did feel TOS was a strong probability.
Oh got off track LOL.
But my C/T spine isn't sore on the skin or to touch at all??
just gets sore inside the muscles {I guess} when i bend to lift or reach out to lift, push or pull a heavy object. at times it feels like something is ripping or tearing or just broken???
Last summer reaching out over the couch to open or close our slider windows was a big pain maker- nedd to silicone the glides next summer{chiros suggestion}

Oh goodness we had a record 10 in the chat room last nite!

Shelley and dabbo were just horrible ! {hilarious!!}
just like little kids
cracking up and being totally silly We had a lot of belly laughs and chuckles, I'm sure - I know I did.

If any of you are up for it just log in and read - you don't have to type.
usually?? most are in around 7 pm pacific time USA

I looked for some easy time zone graphics/converters-
http://www.worldtimezone.com/
http://www3.shastacollege.edu/dscoll...e_zone_map.JPG

Mark and Red-
sorry if this is a dumb question, but have either of you tried chiropractic?
do you have a full range of motion in your neck...like can you look 90 degrees to the side in both directions?

For me, chiropractic helps more with neck pain that anything else. You really have tokeep up with it though,to train the muscles and ligaments in the "better" neck position.

It is nice here, too, in Socal. enjoying the sun.

Jo- I wish I could join in the chat more, but 7PM is dinner time in our house, so no computer for me!!

Johanna

Oh yeah- been going to a chiro for many years. In fact, my chiro was the one whose office I went to work in when I was still able to do massage therapy. Most of the time the only thing that would help my neck was a chiropractic adjustment. Her adjustments do help but for the most part, no, I don't have 90 degree range of motion in my neck. I use heating pads alot and take a muscle relaxer on a regular daily basis, needed or not, just to keep the pain from being any worse than it is. The severe pain I was talking about to Mark is if I actually mash on the back of my C-spine, directly on my spine. I wondered for years if I didn't have some kind of cord impingement but have had too many MRIs and CT scans to count and they always show nothing but minor bulges.

oh - I can't lean against the hard back of the tub unless I have some cushioning, that hurts a bit {osteophytes?? or at the T/C junction/ hump area?} and even when the pressure is off afterward it is sore for awhile.

turnd out to be a sucky day.. There was some tension in our house today.. My husband worries and doesn't understand alot. It seems as though one thing starts to get worked out and then another medical problem arises.. My family lives far away.. So everything gets put on his back..
My doctor never called me back and it was yesterday that I left a message for them that I had been having this awful problem with my right arm.. Which feels like a 2nd degree sunburn today.. I guess I am just so worried about this new onset of pain in my right arm following my surgry.. And praying that it is nothing more than a very irritated nerve issue that will calm down..
Sorry to vent I just needed to chat with my TOS family..
I hope everyone is doing well..
Many Hugs to everyone
Dawn

Keep calling they may have lost the message - was that for the surgeon or your primary doc?
some docs do have email or if they have a website {contact us} link??

Is the burning on the skin , or internally based?
no redness or unusual swelling
heat or coolness make a difference

Hi All,

Wow lot's of TOS posts today...phew I have a lot to catch up on.

Jo's right we had a blast in chat last night. Thanks guys that silliness was just what I needed to get me out of my little funk. I was laughing so hard even today. Dawn..where is our ?? Dabbo and and Peg will you please move over

Dawn I am so sorry that you are having a bad day. I am hoping that they call you back tomorrow. I know that Shelia typically spends the whole day in the office on Wednesday so I am hoping they call you tomorrow.

Mark - thanks , my family is A-ok but that accident was so close to them and my step brothers just got their licenses' but Dad says they are not yet allowed on the highway so all is good.

Mark to answer your question before the surgery I totally would have pain if someone just touched by C or T spine area. Especially at the CT junction like Jo said...youch! FOr the last year I could not even lie or go to sleep on my back, had to sleep on side. Touching or laying on the CT junction would cause pain plus weird chills down spine all the way down legs. And it would maek that choking feeling even more worse. And after trying to lay on there it would be sore for a while. My chiro did a special adjustment for CT junction that helped the pain in that area and totally made that hump decrease significantly.

Sometimes the pain and burning in the T-spine was awful. But MRI showed nothing at all. I also thought maybe osteophtyte or cord impringement but nothing. It was totally frustrating and perlexing because there was so much pain there but no proof that it should hurt there.

Now since the surgery I can again finally lay on the CT area. The doc explained that he thought it might have been caused by the TOS especially that the long thoracic nerve passed through the middle scalene or was entrapped by it and being crushed by it. During surgery he did freed the brachial plexus, long thoracic and spinal accessory nerve and now the pain is down significantly.

Funny though I wonder about RSD in that area because even though the pain is down even the lightest touch there will cause me to still have those spinal chills and tingling all the way up and down my spine.

And like Jo, I feel it in the C/T junction if I even try to lift something heavy.

TIme for bed

Painfree day for all tomorrow

No i have had spinal problems of numerous sorts over the last 15 years, my ROM is restritred due to C5 thru C7 being fused, multiple osteophytes, spondololetehsis (where one vertebrae glides over another) this C4 in Respect to C5 and a broad based herneation @ C3/4 with naroowing foamina throughout C3-7, though evry symptom in the past with the spine has been via nerve roots and not to the touch at the spine! Thanks all for all the replies

red yeah it does hurt like H E Double toothpicks, so a message is not in the pic... though would take some of that warm weather my thermostat here at the house is showing -4 F this AM BRRRRR !!!

Jo getting older, maybe I am just now noticing pain, I was able ignore prior or could be that have many things going on these days... TOS, CRPS/RSD, Fibromyalgia and the old stand by which has not reared its ugly head in years so I may be due Cervical Disc Disease UMPH


Dawn you know here you never, ever and positevely not ever have to appologize for venting here... you are among caring friends Do hope all worked out well

Yeah does seem to be alot of people wandering about, though always nice to catch up on what is going on with others!

Goober is thinking about coming to pay a visit to all that are having that warm weather, though no trips in my near forcast, so all-i-all take what I get and wish all a good day!!! GOOBERS HOST~MARK~

can also talk about c-spine troubles. In fact, I don`t have c-spine troubles - this is what docs say, it`s only a over-stretching.
I find that massages sometime help me and after a walk outside, I feel much better.
Today I am a full-power-woman. I have a lot of work these last 10 days (in fact we often are only 2 people at work instead of 6 - illness or illness of the child, holidays, formation,....)and today, clients came in all 30 minutes from 08:15 o`clock on. But I am as a rock - I resist and am not stressed. And I am so proud of me - after all, I should not forget, I am a TOS patient!!

The alexander-therapist said to me yesterday, that until now we always worked on the physical problem but "you are more than a personified TO-syndrome". I liked this very much - and yes, that`s true!

Wish you all a good day! With sunshine and agreable temperatures!
Barbara

Want to make sure that Shelley and Dabbo don't
Behave and I'll get you guys your

So and share your seats.. and no more