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Old 08-25-2010, 12:17 AM #1
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Attention TOS cause parkinson

Tos can cause parkinson or other several disease from a recent discovery

Dr. Fernandez Noda realized that both-the TOS and Parkinson-related seemed, had a common link. And, haunted by the possible relationship, began to investigate cases of patients affected by Parkinson's and other central nervous system diseases like multiple sclerosis, epilepsy or Alzheimer's cases. What was the outcome?. Well, he found that most patients who suffered these problems had the compression syndrome of the base of the neck, which is known as Thoracic Operculum Syndrome or T.O.S. It was then, as just explained, decided to enter the letter "C" predating TOS to make clear that the problem affected the blood supply to the brain.

The first paper I would like to refer to by Fernandez Noda and Lopez[3] in 1984 describes a surgical technique for a condition referred to as thoracic outlet syndrome (TOS) in later papers cerebellar thoracic outlet syndrome (CTOS) and more recently cerebral thoracic neurovascular syndrome (CTNVS). The doctors carried out surgery on 71 patients presenting with TOS which “the signs and symptoms are considered to be caused by neurovascular compression through boney, muscular or ligamental structures in the thoracic outlet.” Reported symptoms include paresthesia (tingling, prickling, burning-abnormal sensations), pain, weakness, dizziness, transient blindness, fainting and coldness in fingers/hands/face. The paper discusses complete (100%) removal of the signs and symptoms following division/section of the anterior scalene muscle compressing neurological and vascular structures in the region (thoracic outlet just above the clavicle), with no recurrence of symptoms.

In another paper Fernandez Noda et al[4] conclude that “Parkinson’s disease is a complication of CTOS, caused by insufficient irrigation of the dopamine producing cells and subsequent reduction of dopamine secretion.” Using a surgical technique to perform a division of the scalene muscles (scalenotomy) in order to remove neurovascular compression the authors achieved excellent results with 5% of patients reported completely cured of Parkinson’s symptoms and a further 80% showing significant improvement and able to reduce their dependence on medication. The authors state “After operation, these patients continue to take anti-Parkinson drugs etc. in progressively decreasing quantities until symptoms abate and further medication is unnecessary.” Further they conclude “compression is produced by the anterior scalene muscles and the cervical ribs at the level of C6-7. The faulty irrigation of the cerebellum and cerebral cells produces CTOS and its complications, notable among which are ipsilateral paralysis and Parkinson’s disease.”

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He had performed a Thoracic outlet syndrome surgery (TOS) on a Parkinson's patient and incredibly his Parkinson's symptoms got better

http://njnnetwork.com/2010/06/new-tr...nsons-disease/

And maybe sclerosis

http://www.thisisms.com/ftopic-10649...rderasc-0.html
http://www.thisisms.com/ftopic-12121...orderasc-.html

http://translate.google.com/translat...g/jacamp03.htm

Complications CTOS

Described by other authors:
Aneurysm of the vertebral and subclavian arteries.
Thrombosis.
Described by Dr. Fernandez Noda:
Ipsilateral paralysis.
Vision loss temporary or permanent.
Complete compression of the subclavian artetias with necrotic phenomena and the threat of distal upper limb gangrene.
Symptomatic Parkinson's disease (SPD).
Some cases of early Alzheimer's disease (EAD).
Epilepsy.
Multiple sclerosis.
Cerebellar ataxia.

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Question Symptomatic Parkinson's disease (SPD)

Hi boytos,

The way I understand your post, is that TOS can mimic Parkinson's Disease, as it can mimic symptoms of many other diseases - making TOS difficult to diagnose. True that cervical decompression can relieve these similar symptoms, but if this were the sole cause of PD, then all sufferers could be helped via a decompression surgery.

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PD is also called "primary parkinsonism" or "idiopathic PD" (classically meaning having no known cause). While many forms of parkinsonism are idiopathic, "secondary" cases may result from toxicity most notably of drugs, head trauma, or other medical disorders.
Interesting post - many thanks for this!

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Yes but it can make real sclerosis multiple , Cerebellar ataxia., vision loss ect
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Interests me because I have had vision loss. I read an article that stated that 60 to 80% of sleepwalkers developed Parkinson's. Remember the middle ages? People were committed as lepers who we now believe had any number of different ddiseases. Possibly Parkinson's diagnoses are similarly grouped as a handy niche for as yet unnamed diseases. Thanks for the synopsis. very stimulating.
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Interests me because I have had vision loss. I read an article that stated that 60 to 80% of sleepwalkers developed Parkinson's. Remember the middle ages? People were committed as lepers who we now believe had any number of different ddiseases. Possibly Parkinson's diagnoses are similarly grouped as a handy niche for as yet unnamed diseases. Thanks for the synopsis. very stimulating.
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The way I understand your post, is that TOS can mimic Parkinson's Disease, as it can mimic symptoms of many other diseases - making TOS difficult to diagnose.
In the case of multiple sclerosis it seems more than just mimic.

It seems that MS is associated with blood reflux into the veins (google for CCSVI), and venous TOS can produce that precisely.

It seems that some reports about TOS in MS patients are starting to appear.
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In the case of multiple sclerosis it seems more than just mimic.

It seems that MS is associated with blood reflux into the veins (google for CCSVI), and venous TOS can produce that precisely.

It seems that some reports about TOS in MS patients are starting to appear.
Yes but not specially venous tos. MS is associated with jugular vein compression, not subsclavian vein. So you can have NTOS or VTOS, it does not matter
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