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chroma 08-14-2011 02:06 AM

Also, when people get better from health problems they tend to go back to living their life. The non-problematic cases are unlikely to be hanging out here.

In fact, I hope someday I'm not here either. :p

Coop, you had your surgery a long time ago IIRC. Are you due for a fresh round of exams and imaging? :Scratch-Head: Maybe you've already had that; I don't know your whole history.

Coop42 08-14-2011 10:03 AM

Actually, I did have one of those fancy MRA/MRI scans of the thoracic and brachial plexus area about seven years ago. It didn't show any major compression. I talked with a surgeon at UCSF about it and he didn't feel any further surgery would be beneficial. He felt like scar tissue was a lot of my problem.

Anne4tos 08-14-2011 09:50 PM

Chroma: I think trigger point therapy and myofascial release are paramount before you begin any therapy that would inflame, disrupt or aggravate what's going on. I did buy the Intu-Flow program that Coop's been doing, but my gut tells me I'm not there yet. I need another 6 months or so of therapy under my belt and a slow testing of the waters before I try. My nervous system is now calm and I want to re-train my brain out of the 24/7 fight or flight response. Manual therapy has made the world of difference for me. I only wish I could go 3 times or more per week.

Coop: I see you are in Northern Ca. Did you have a Werden MRI?

Coop42 08-15-2011 09:05 AM

Yep, Dr. Scott Werden was the guy who did it and I think the surgeon I saw was Dr. Avery.

Coop42 08-15-2011 04:01 PM

Movement Heals
 
"No matter how good your diet is, if you're not moving that joint, it's not getting any of the nutrition your puttting in your mouth." -Scott Sonnon(Quote from Ageless Mobility seminar on Youtube)

I learn a lot from listening to Scott Sonnon. He seems like a very intelligent guy. The Ageless Mobility seminar on Youtube is pretty interesting.

He talks about how movement brings nutrition to your joints so they can heal. Without the movement, he says your joints don't get any nutrition, so your body is literally starving to death.

That makes sense to me because over the years I've tried many different diets, nutritional supplements, vitamins, minerals, etc. and I've never found anything that made a noticeable difference in my pain levels, or helped me heal. I guess if your body is really tight, and stuck together, like mine, no nutrition gets to those tight, adhered together, muscles and joints.

Another thing he mentions, is that most injuries, are the result of overuse, or inactivity. Overuse is what got me into all this pain in the very beginning. Now, inactivity may be what has kept me from healing. Hopefully, continued joint mobility exercises will do the trick.

hellothere 08-17-2011 06:34 PM

As things get more and more loose form streching and ect can it cause aches and pains, I get aches and pains in my shoulders all the time and im trying to distinguish what its from? I do the shoulder circles and ect but i dunno.

Is streching everyday to much ?

Coop42 08-18-2011 09:19 AM

Stretching everyday might be too much, sometimes. I've learned to let my body be the guide. If I feel good I do more, if I'm in pain, I do less. I think it's something you kind of have to play around with and figure out. I'm still learning as I go.

chroma 08-18-2011 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hellothere (Post 796750)
As things get more and more loose form streching and ect can it cause aches and pains, I get aches and pains in my shoulders all the time and im trying to distinguish what its from? I do the shoulder circles and ect but i dunno.

Is streching everyday to much ?

I resolved my shoulder pain with the Egoscue stretches, many of which are passive where you lay on the floor in a certain position and let gravity do the work for you. This allows you to let go of the muscle.

I've been doing these 6 days a week.

hellothere 08-18-2011 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chroma (Post 797040)
I resolved my shoulder pain with the Egoscue stretches, many of which are passive where you lay on the floor in a certain position and let gravity do the work for you. This allows you to let go of the muscle.

I've been doing these 6 days a week.

Whats the link to buy the egoscue guide? I have heard to many good things.

chroma 08-18-2011 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hellothere (Post 797046)
Whats the link to buy the egoscue guide? I have heard to many good things.

Here is the book I'm using:
http://www.amazon.com/Pain-Free-at-Y...dp/0553380524/

He has four books and the first review for this one, by "Clopper Almon Jr", talks about all four so you can pick one:
http://www.amazon.com/Egoscue-Method...dp/0060924306/

And here is the main web site:
http://www.egoscue.com/

They also have clinics where you can get an evaluation of your alignment and problems and they'll prescribe an exercise set and teach them to you. I already had my alignment reviewed by my chiro, so I haven't bothered. Otherwise, that sounds like a good idea.


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