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plexus 05-22-2011 10:04 AM
I would have thought sleeping on your right side was a bad idea as it would be likely to close the thoracic outlet, but then again if you don't get symptoms overnight then it may not be so bad. Sleeping on my side is a definite no no for me and everytime I do I wake up with symptoms. Slleeping on your back is probably best (with a pillow tucked under your knees to support your lower back) as long as your mattress isn't too soft. If you can't sleep on you back then try the left but try to find a posture that prevents your right shoulder falling forwards and inwards

mspennyloafer 05-22-2011 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by boytos (Post 772621)
I'm sure it is the exercice now.
how long have you been doing it for

im gonna try, it doesnt look like it could cause any damage

boytos 05-22-2011 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by kyoun1e (Post 772680)
Very interested in this thread.

I've been thinking about my sleep position and my particular TOS situation. In my case, I have a compression of my subclavian artery on the right side. I also sleep consistently on my right side/shoulder with my right arm outstretched/straight.

For somebody with TOS on the right side, would this position be problematic?

As for the exercises and this particular case, this is encouraging. If a serious athelete can overcome this with a systematic approach to exercise and stretching I'm wondering if I can as well. I've been looking for a strict approach here. What I'm doing on my own with scalene stretches seems to be helping the symptoms I have around the elbow and last two fingers, but the scapular pain on the right side remains a problem...and it all definitely flares up with serious exercise...just like this particular football player when he has contact.

Are you sure it was just exercise 2 that did the job? What about the others?

KY
Are you sure it was just exercise 2 that did the job? What about the others?

Yes

mspennyloafer 05-22-2011 11:59 AM
With this type of conservative treatment the athlete did not see much improvement and continued to progressively get worse after each lifting and conditioning session. After a month of conservative treatment, the athlete began to contemplate having surgery and ending his football career. Because the athlete was not making progress, clinician one asked another clinician to take over his case.

i def find it encouraging AN ATHLETE didnt respond well to conservative tx. you cant blame anything on the patient there. hes in good health, young, and knows how to exercise properly and it still didnt work!!

Jomar 05-22-2011 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by kyoun1e (Post 772680)
the scapular pain on the right side remains a problem...and it all definitely flares up with serious exercise...

KY

Are you sue it is actually scapular pain?
Or where exactly do you feel it & what does it feel like?
Could it be the rhomboids underneath the scapula?


I sometimes get a deep achy burning under the edges of the scapula & it is the rhomboids.
They are actually a fairly weak muscle and can be overstretched/fatigued by having the shoulder forward posture - that's when they start to burn and hurt.

I can get rid of that pain easily by doing the ball stretches or laying on the foam roll & paying better attention to my shoulder postures.

Jomar 05-22-2011 12:07 PM
I also read long ago that when the pain/symptoms is resolved the strength will return easily.
I found that to be true in my case.

The pain & symptoms really need to be resolved before moving onto strengthening.

mspennyloafer 05-22-2011 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jo*mar (Post 772717)
Are you sue it is actually scapular pain?
Or where exactly do you feel it & what does it feel like?
Could it be the rhomboids underneath the scapula?


I sometimes get a deep achy burning under the edges of the scapula & it is the rhomboids.
They are actually a fairly weak muscle and can be overstretched/fatigued by having the shoulder forward posture - that's when they start to burn and hurt.
yeah this happens on my left side, my shoulder blade itself never hurt but you start to notice everything touching the shoulder is really irritated bc its out of place.

mspennyloafer 05-22-2011 12:31 PM
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Are you sure it was just exercise 2 that did the job? What about the others?

KY

Manual techniques consisted of four techniques: left anterior interior chain (L AIC), superior T4, subclavius stretch (right and left), and infraclavicular pump with opposition.23,28,41 These techniques were done to assist with the postural correction goals for repositioning of the pelvis and trunk including soft tissue and bones. These were done for five breaths, each twice daily.

are the others, im assuming a pt did them.

then his sx went away for 6 wks and he moved onto strengthening

boytos 05-22-2011 01:15 PM
I talked about me. But i did the exercice like 1 time every 2 hours, 8weeks.

And more than 45 secondes each^^

kyoun1e 05-22-2011 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by plexus (Post 772686)
I would have thought sleeping on your right side was a bad idea as it would be likely to close the thoracic outlet.Sleeping on your back is probably best (with a pillow tucked under your knees to support your lower back) as long as your mattress isn't too soft. If you can't sleep on you back then try the left but try to find a posture that prevents your right shoulder falling forwards and inwards
Ugh.

Well that would be a problem. I've been sleeping on my right side like that for years. It's my primary sleeping position. If I end up on my back (which I do often) it's totally by accident.

KY


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