How ?

1) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2953353/

Exercice 2 only. 1 session per hour maximum. 1 session = 2 times.


2) Sleeping in "U" (entire arms and shoudlers supported) + neck relaxed with ergonomic pillow : work very well. My blood flow improve in 30 secondes no joke !! with relaxation i feel all my scalenes relaxing between colarbone and first rib. Incredible.


3) Supported arm on computer


Had V/A/N TOS from RSI.

Info : The TMJ become relaxed as the scalene become relaxed.

do you have like a crappy diagram/drawing of this..do you support your arm/shoulder just with a blanket underneath?

am i the only one who cant use a pillow at all? i put a towel under my neck and that's it.

i usually feel pretty gross when i wake up so i need to change a few things.

OKay.. red is pillows, all same size. The goal is to support the arms, thereby taking the weight off the neck and shoulder all the night. And you need a pillow that support your neck.

You need to support fully and only what is in red.

thanks a bunch

90/90 hip shift exercise is interesting too bc i am also knock kneed with floppy hips.

Whats the difference between sleeping this way on pillows or sleeping flat on the bed? The only difference i can tell from the diagrams is that is changes the curve in the thoracic spine. i'll still give it a go though, I'll try anything. I sleep with my arms straight and externally rotated. This position feels good for my TOS but sleeping on ones back isn't very comfortable (though i find it impossible to sleep on my side without being woke up by a dead arm). Also are your elbows bent in the picture ? 40% of people with TOS are supposed to have signs of peripheral nerve entrapment as well so it may not be a good position for everyone eg.if you have ulna nerve entrapment at the elbow

Thanks for the above article. Will give the exercises a try

The difference is shoulder and arms are fully supported. It is not the case when sleeping flat.

(i guess)

When your are sitting, something that support back and shoulder fully is good, i think.

Ive thought about cutting a full length memory foam topper just short of the width of the shoulders so that when one sleeps on it allows the shoulders to fall backwards thereby opening the thoracic outlet but who knows whether it would be comfortable. The problem with mattresses is that they tend to sink more where the body is relative to the shoulders and hence push the shoulders forwards and inwards which is exactly what you don't want

yeah but i think it is the exercice that give these results : I started sleeping like this 3 days ago.

I'm sure it is the exercice now.

Very interested in this thread.

I've been thinking about my sleep position and my particular TOS situation. In my case, I have a compression of my subclavian artery on the right side. I also sleep consistently on my right side/shoulder with my right arm outstretched/straight.

For somebody with TOS on the right side, would this position be problematic?

As for the exercises and this particular case, this is encouraging. If a serious athelete can overcome this with a systematic approach to exercise and stretching I'm wondering if I can as well. I've been looking for a strict approach here. What I'm doing on my own with scalene stretches seems to be helping the symptoms I have around the elbow and last two fingers, but the scapular pain on the right side remains a problem...and it all definitely flares up with serious exercise...just like this particular football player when he has contact.

Are you sure it was just exercise 2 that did the job? What about the others?

KY