Thoracic Outlet Syndrome Thoracic Outlet Syndrome/Brachial Plexopathy. In Memory Of DeAnne Marie.


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Old 10-09-2011, 10:45 AM #11
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according to this site

http://barttersite.org/

very low magnesium levels take 6 mos to a year to heal
they said "I know that docs have to be careful as the cannot flood a body. With meds
other than antibiotics. Too much is a bad thing. The panic attach was actually
overdose symptoms. As respiratory shut down is a hugh sign of mag overdose.
Panic attacks mimic it as ones muscles are too relaxed. Diaphragms do not work
well when this happens"
so i think that's what i was experiencing, a mild version of it.

now i take 400 mg glycinate and 2 tspns of magonate

i still have neck major pain and tightness (obv) but my spine isn't on fire anymore. i get spasms on the left side of my body for some reason, in the morning sometimes foot cramps and a spasm inside of my mouth.

i am going to try dumping mag oil on my neck before doing pilates exercises and see if that helps

i think everyone here, unless they live on a farm and eat their own crops, should take 400 mg of glycinate (or whatever is easiest on your stomach) a day.
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"The Magnesium Miracle" by Dean certainly made a case for deficiency in the general population and therefore supplementation.
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yup that's a good book

altho she says that people heal within weeks. that bugs me. if half magnesium is in your bones i dont think youd heal in 2-3 weeks.

the back of my neck still hates me. if i press it with my fingers it hurts like hell

i'm trying to eat more anti-inflammatory foods now.
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on good authority when body is under stress

*Magnesium and Calcium
*Vit D usually runs waaay low & helps with depression
*Melatonin levels drop considerably - needed for sleep http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2001/melatonin-1017.html
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It is my impression that the Bartter's site deals with a specific kidney problem that is genetic.

Some of the advice about the electrolytes relate to that condition specifically and others do not. It is very difficult to separate those facts from each other for the general public IMO.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartter_syndrome
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http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/238670-overview
Gittleman's"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gitelman_syndrome

If you decide to use topical magnesium, I'd lower your oral intake, accordingly.
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my vit d is 66 now!! i bet when my pain was at its worse it was a zero. ive been supplementing that since june (before i even realized my mag was low, lol). i'm still sleeping crappy, i think it's due to cortisol. i might start taking melatonin, at least on weekends. it does work.

yeah i realize that those are people with severe electrolyte disorders but i was sick of weeding through information for people whose levels were above 1.0. .5 to me is a different ballpark. i AM absorbing the mag tho and that makes me happy. yesterday i put on a lot of mag oil and i actually didn't take my 400 mg this morning..i will later. i think ive gotten a lot better at being able to feel when i have enough. my bp will get too low.

latest strange labwork i've had is my iron.

TIBC 228 (250-450) total iron binding capacity
UIBC 180 (150-375) unsat. iron binding capactiy
IRON SERUM 48 (35-155)
IRON SAT 21 (15-55)

FERRITIN 23 (13-150)

ive had it done twice and my tibc is always too low. im going to show it to a doc and then if he doesn't know im gong to find a nutritionist since doctors don't take any of this stuff seriously.
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There are alot of women with low ferritin.

Ferritin is a protein, which holds the iron, for future use.

Some people don't make this protein well, or it can reflect bleeding internally, or heavy periods, which deplete the iron faster than ferritin can store it.

Some people are relatively low in ferritin. It is HIGH ferritin that is problematic, indicating possible iron overload which is toxic to the body.

If you are not anemic, then I wouldn't worry. But ask your doctor before taking iron. This is one thing that should be supervised by a doctor. Dosing and length of time used decided upon the doctor, and not self administered.
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do you know anything about low TIBC? is that common?
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i tried lookign it up in a chart and it just says chronic illness

i am grateful i have low ferritin tho, i agree, that would mean i have inflammation or some weird blood disease


actually im going to stop taking any magonate for a few weeks and see if it helps, maybe it's too potent and interfering with my ability to bind to iron. wild guess tho, i really have no clue
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i just got my labs back again, trying to understand them

mag was a 2.0

potassium is still too high, out of range high! and im not eating high potassium foods, my mchc was at the top of the range which i think points to some kind of anemia.

co2 at the bottom of range, almost out of range. b ut that's from breathing terribly i think
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