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Old 10-02-2011, 03:26 PM #1
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I just came across this article on Kevin Sorbo, who appears to have had a case of arterial TOS. (I've read elsewhere that he did have TOS, though I'm, not sure why this article doesn't identify the subclavian artery.)

http://journals.lww.com/neurologynow...ls_his.15.aspx
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I think the article gets it wrong that the stroke did not come from TOS. If you look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoraci...table_patients, you'll find that J.R. Richard suffered from a stroke from TOS. He was told by an allopathic doctor that his symptoms were not serious (same as what initially happened to Sorbo and myself) and that he could return to activity. That advice resulted in a career ending stroke at which point the doctor's decided to really drill down on what his problem was, resulting in a diagnosis of TOS. Had they caught it earlier, he would not have had a stroke.

Also, I've read up on the stroke issues with neck adjustments and unless I recall incorrectly, the increased risk was for people 60 and over whose vessels are less supple. This would make sense since your neck is, in fact, designed to be able to be turned.

Btw not all chiros do these types of adjustments. My chiro uses "the Activator" tool which does not involve any twisting of the neck.

I think the article could have explored why his initial doctors could not diagnose him and what, if anything, the medical community is doing to improve this blindspot in modern medical care. I think neither him nor J.R. Richard would have had strokes if they had received the correct diagnosis when they first sought medical care.

The article could have also explored what factors lead to him developing TOS.

Btw I went to the same damn hospital and was discharged "undiagnosed". I guess you get better attention if you're a !@#$ing celebrity. Not that I have hard feelings towards Sorbo. It's the state of medical care that I'm not satisfied with. I've read more than once from vascual surgeon sources that ER's under-diagnose TOS, or don't even diagnose it at all.

This was interesting to me, since I have dizziness problems: “As a result of working with an acupuncturist, I improved dramatically,” Sorbo says. “My headaches and dizziness were less severe and more manageable as well.”

Btw I discovered that there at least two exercises that are bad for the thoracic area. One is deep dips and the other is forward shoulder rolls. Being that he worked out all the time, I wonder if he did these (and wonder if he still does)?

Sounds like he still has TOS: "Today, Sorbo has regained his health, although he still experiences residual arm pain from the circulation loss and nerve damage."

In any case, interesting article! Thanks.
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I think the article gets it wrong that the stroke did not come from TOS. If you look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoraci...table_patients, you'll find that J.R. Richard suffered from a stroke from TOS. He was told by an allopathic doctor that his symptoms were not serious (same as what initially happened to Sorbo and myself) and that he could return to activity. That advice resulted in a career ending stroke at which point the doctor's decided to really drill down on what his problem was, resulting in a diagnosis of TOS. Had they caught it earlier, he would not have had a stroke.

Also, I've read up on the stroke issues with neck adjustments and unless I recall incorrectly, the increased risk was for people 60 and over whose vessels are less supple. This would make sense since your neck is, in fact, designed to be able to be turned.

Btw not all chiros do these types of adjustments. My chiro uses "the Activator" tool which does not involve any twisting of the neck.

I think the article could have explored why his initial doctors could not diagnose him and what, if anything, the medical community is doing to improve this blindspot in modern medical care. I think neither him nor J.R. Richard would have had strokes if they had received the correct diagnosis when they first sought medical care.

The article could have also explored what factors lead to him developing TOS.

Btw I went to the same damn hospital and was discharged "undiagnosed". I guess you get better attention if you're a !@#$ing celebrity. Not that I have hard feelings towards Sorbo. It's the state of medical care that I'm not satisfied with. I've read more than once from vascual surgeon sources that ER's under-diagnose TOS, or don't even diagnose it at all.

This was interesting to me, since I have dizziness problems: “As a result of working with an acupuncturist, I improved dramatically,” Sorbo says. “My headaches and dizziness were less severe and more manageable as well.”

Btw I discovered that there at least two exercises that are bad for the thoracic area. One is deep dips and the other is forward shoulder rolls. Being that he worked out all the time, I wonder if he did these (and wonder if he still does)?

Sounds like he still has TOS: "Today, Sorbo has regained his health, although he still experiences residual arm pain from the circulation loss and nerve damage."

In any case, interesting article! Thanks.
OMG..... those articles have freaked me out! MY history. Long time sufferer of cold extremities, hands, feet, nose and even my bum!!! Developed Raynauds Phenomenom. Approx 6 yrs back I experienced a VERY bad muscle pull/rip in my lower back and pec while in the gym ( how ironic). Struggled with flare up pain ever since.
About 5 yrs back I got so frustrated with my neuro symptoms (TOS) that I went to see a chiro to work with my neck. First 2 sessions seemed fine and gave some release, however on the 3rd visit I'd mentioned to my chiro ( who I stopped seeing after this visit) that my shoulder was painful also. The result, she performed neck and shoulder manipulation. OUCH!!!!! I was in ABSOLUTE AGONY!!!!! with my shoulder/neck after. WHY on earth I never complained????.....I have no idea. I didn't even go to my doctor about it as it was previously suggested by him that prehaps I had anxiety issues! As he couldn't get to the bottom of my probs ..OH YES, THATS THE REASON WHY I TRIED THE CHIROPRACTOR IN THE FIRST PLACE.... DUE TO HIS COMMENT!
Its worries me to think that on top of all my TOS/general health stuff that I now suspect that I may have actually experienced a TIA!!!!! It coincides that around this time when I was a mess.... having probs with my spine- cervical and lumbar. I began to struggle with my walking ( difficulty with my left thigh, which felt like it was slower to function) It was quite bothersome at the time for me but improved over time. I just assumed it was where I injured my back. I also had terrible sweats and dizziness which again I made an excuse for ( this time I put it down to a hormone imbalance). It just goes to show that you should NEVER rely on the opinion of just one doctor..... ALWAYS get a second opinion if you are not happy with the outcome or if you feel as though issues have not been dealt with. PLEASE learn from my mistake. I now make sure that I'm monitored appropiately or at least adequately...... I'M STILL TOO QUIET FOR MY OWN GOOD. I'm working on being more confident with questioning my doctors decisions regarding MY health.
They don't know your body like YOU do!!!
Best wishes to all, KEEP STRONG!!!
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