"Temporomandibular joint disorder (TMJD or TMD), or TMJ syndrome, is an umbrella term covering acute or chronic inflammation of the temporomandibular joint, which connects the mandible to the skull. The disorder and resultant dysfunction can result in significant pain and impairment."

Symptoms at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporo...joint_disorder

Anyone have this? Suspect you have it? Thoughts on its relation to TOS?

Both my vascular MD and my chiro think that some of my symptoms are not TOS and therefore I have TOS + something else. When I went searching for my other symptoms, TMJ kept coming up.

whiplash can cause this and i definitely gave myself whiplash which made it 1000000000000000000000x worse bc your scm is jammed

even right now i feel this weird nervy sensation in my jaw and ear, its not muscle, but it feels off

i think overactivation of the scm in any situation (tos etc) will cause tmj but that's just mho

I have many symptoms of TMJ, but in most people's opinion it is caused by TOS, not the other way around. Pulling of the neck and throat muscles have thrown my jaw out of whack. It's even effecting my bite now and the dentist is noticing wear and tear on some teeth that have not been there before.

I do a lot of manual internal releases in my mouth and jaw which helps the pain at times. There are also Feldenkrais TMJ audios that have been beneficial for me.

It's all part of the package .

That would be a big yes from me. I often have a deep boring pain under the jaw, and find it tightens up ALOT when I smile or laugh too much!
I have the perfect excuse to be a miserable git and not laugh at others crappy jokes at least.

Thanks.

So what is the true source of the neck spasms for us then? Why do we have crazy scalenes and SCMs?

Oh I wish I knew....... I'm trying as much as possible to relax myself and keep a check on tense muscles- you name it, meditation, music, relaxation cd, self massage, hot baths,muscle rubs,no heavy lifting, no smoking OR alcohol to prevent toxin build up: and I still struggle with muscle spasms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope my acupuncture session on Saturday is worthwhile because it ain't cheap!
Best wishes guys xx

i dont think its possible to have tos (scalene kind not just pec minor or bc of cervical rib) without forward head posture.

fhd=increased likelyhood of tmj

also my experience is i never experienced a neck spasm in my life until i irritated my bp (despite giving myself whiplash and having no cervical curve) which i find interesting. so it goes both ways, muscle to nerve irritation nerve to muscle irritation

Le for tosers we all have a compensaable disease called terstosis or something like that as our meds make our mouth drive and our teeth hurt and fall out. Use special tooth paste, wash and make sure your primary doctor, if you are on work comp to help you

How did you irritate your brachial plexus? Where did you feel the irritation?