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mspennyloafer 09-11-2012 12:52 PM

uuug

i just typed this long response and losti t

long story short i cant even do pushups against a sink. it fires off my pecs

nospam 09-12-2012 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chroma (Post 912366)
And I should have included:

-- self first rib adjustment

Are you using Karate Belt, Yamuna Balls, and/or melt roller?

chroma 09-13-2012 12:56 AM

The karate belt thing aggravated by TMJD and dizziness. Though since I've been doing QRs, my neck and jaw tension are coming down, so I might try again in a couple weeks.

Prior to ever seeing Ando, I came up with my own technique where I reach across with my other arm and use the pad of my thumb to shove the rib down. Like the Ando technique, I tilt the head to that side to put slack in the scalenes. Then I keep pressure on the rib as I bring the head upright.

Often when I feel a strong pulse sensation in the base of my neck, I can do this and get a reduction.

Crazy first rib!

I used to also use the other hand to pull the head down quickly. However, I now have a muscle spasm on the other side of the neck which I think was created as a guarding reaction to this. So I have dropped that part of the procedure.

Re: Yamuna balls, it wasn't clear to me that they were helping though they didn't seem to hurt.

Re: melt roller, it has come in handy when my ribs pop out. On the other hand it's a little tall for me to lay over and the pressure can be hard to bear. Of course, I could consider cutting a lengthwise piece off or putting something on either side of it.

Ando's manual therapy was excellent and very helpful. But until I discovered QRs, the results didn't last long enough. No discredit to him. I had the same problem with other providers. I have been clenching my muscles unconsciously and frequently in response to the smallest stressors.

My muscle tension is coming down each week. Maybe in 4 - 6 weeks when it has come down even more, I'll get more manual therapy sessions based on the presumption that the results will stick.

chroma 09-22-2012 06:00 PM

Ug, I played Borderlands 2 on the PS3 for 4 hours last night and now my forearms feel empty, my veins are completely flat and my hands ache. :mad:

Earlier this week, I was driving a rental car and I couldn't use my trick of extending the seat belt cross strap off my body by hooking the belt on the emergency brake, because it wasn't in the middle of the car. So I wore my belt normally. And it caused aching in the left chest.

Sometimes I feel normal enough that I forget about TOS and then stuff like this reminds me that it's still there.

On a positive note, I recalled Broken Wing's tip to keep the "arms, shoulders, scalenes and scapulas fleece warm". I put on a long sleeve shirt even though I wasn't otherwise cold and it's helping.


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