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Old 05-08-2012, 12:15 AM #11
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Thanks for sharing, my elbow pain is getting slowly better as I try to sleep with my arms very slightly bent and my hands resting more on my lower abdomen instead of the chest( I used to sleep like a mummy). Basically arms are more at a 122 degree to 135 degree angle, just like the post cubital surgery braces help you do. Your boxer shorts pockets are a great idea!
The boxer short pockets didn't work because I ended up closer to hyper-extension and woke up in even more pain. I took your advice and use a down pillow tucked with my arm at a 120-135 degree angle and the elbow pain is greatly reduced now. Icing between the clavical and axilla has also helped as I believe I still have a lot of post surgical inflammation. Icing the elbow doesn't really help me.
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The boxer short pockets didn't work because I ended up closer to hyper-extension and woke up in even more pain. I took your advice and use a down pillow tucked with my arm at a 120-135 degree angle and the elbow pain is greatly reduced now. Icing between the clavical and axilla has also helped as I believe I still have a lot of post surgical inflammation. Icing the elbow doesn't really help me.
I am glad the 120-135 angle is working for you. It even helps me in the day, consciously keeping the elbow at that angle most of the time. It will take time, few weeks but it will get better. Good luck in your recovery!

Icing or heat on elbow won't help, because your elbow is probably hypersensitive.Try a warm shower that warms up the pect area, there is definitely a relation between the pect minor musle and elbow pain since the brachial plexus passes through the retropectoralis space and when that is tight, you could get elbow pain due to the compression of the ulnar nerve or the other reason could be because of the elbow being bent over a long period of time ie cubital tunnel syndrome.
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I lifted a big cake a few times to be able to frost it and my left elbow pain has returned back with bending the elbow even for a short time or lifting a little weight ( even half a mug of water)? I consciously try to keep it at a really wide angle so it feels better but the minute I bend it again all the pain comes back. Its been two weeks now.
I am wondering if I should see an orthopedic surgeon, incase it is local to the elbow and not coming from my Brachial plexus. Just to rule things out. Any input would be much appreciated.

It's important for me to fix my elbow as I need to be able to do some mild exercises that my new PT has taught me.
She has been doing manual therapy for me along with myofascial release and trying to massage and break down scar tissue( atleast whatever she can feel) and finally after 2 plus years I am being able to sleep on my sides, and wake up with no pain in my shoulder or neck. God bless her!
( Also thanks to all of you forum buddies who guided me in the right direction for manual therapy, you truly are my angels!)
Only it is hard to sleep on my sides for long if I can't bend my elbow.

Any thoughts? Please help.Thanks
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many people with tos will develop mulitiple crush syndrome which has happened with me this might explain your elbow issues
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many people with tos will develop mulitiple crush syndrome which has happened with me this might explain your elbow issues
Thanks for your input, that makes sense. Has any kind of treatment helped you with the elbow pain? please share..
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Can you find a PT place or chiro that uses a low level laser (LLLT) also called cold or soft laser.
If you don't want adjustments by chiro just tell them you are mainly interested in the laser treatment to see if it helps w/the elbow pain.

If the prices on them ever come down , I am buying one , it is so fast and amazing. 1 or 2 times of 20 seconds on a sore spot and poof all better.
If the pain is coming from that spot anyway..


Sometimes the LLLT is confused with LED light therapy as they are both a type of light, but LED takes a LOT longer for a treatment 20-30 mins vs 20-30 seconds...for LLLT.

This is a good laser & LED info site- http://www.laser.nu/
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I still have some elbow issues and the true source appears to be pec minor.

My left side is almost unnoticeable now but right is still very tender. If I reach across my body everything is fine but if I reach my arm directly out to the side the nerves are very tight throughout the arm, centered at the elbow.

Wearing the Intellliskin garments is helping by keeping the pecs stretched. I'm doing 5 days of therapy this week in the hopes of really opening up the pecs.
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Can you find a PT place or chiro that uses a low level laser (LLLT) also called cold or soft laser.
If you don't want adjustments by chiro just tell them you are mainly interested in the laser treatment to see if it helps w/the elbow pain.

If the prices on them ever come down , I am buying one , it is so fast and amazing. 1 or 2 times of 20 seconds on a sore spot and poof all better.
If the pain is coming from that spot anyway..


Sometimes the LLLT is confused with LED light therapy as they are both a type of light, but LED takes a LOT longer for a treatment 20-30 mins vs 20-30 seconds...for LLLT.

This is a good laser & LED info site- http://www.laser.nu/

My PT just started using a infra red laser, it definitely seemed to give relief. I have only had the light once. Maybe more treatments will make it better.
Jo Mar Thanks so much. All of you are so kind and helpful. Is the LLLT supposed to be better than an infra red laser?

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I still have some elbow issues and the true source appears to be pec minor.

My left side is almost unnoticeable now but right is still very tender. If I reach across my body everything is fine but if I reach my arm directly out to the side the nerves are very tight throughout the arm, centered at the elbow.

Wearing the Intellliskin garments is helping by keeping the pecs stretched. I'm doing 5 days of therapy this week in the hopes of really opening up the pecs.
The source of the elbow pain coming from pec minor tightness makes sense. I remember reading this somewhere. I also read your post where you added about it coming from the shoulder positioning as well. I wish we had a Ando Aston in Northern cal. You people in So Cal are so lucky! Good to know you are feeling much better Marc. Thanks for sharing..
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