Thoracic Outlet Syndrome Thoracic Outlet Syndrome/Brachial Plexopathy. In Memory Of DeAnne Marie.


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Old 11-15-2012, 08:55 PM #1
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MRA showed compression of jugular vein by manubrium and high signal in sigmoid sinus. Also compression of BP in thoracic outlet and other vascular compression. I'm waiting for the radiologists report. It was done last week.
i am actually trying to drive this point across in another thread. VTOS and NTOS are two totally different disease processed. VTOS is by definition compression of the subclavian vein at costoclavicular space ( the space between your collar bone and your first rib ) NTOS is the compression of brachial plexus in scalene triangle (triangle consist of anterior scalene, middle scalene and first rib ) These are two separate spaces. In my experience ( close to 260 cases in the past two years). the best diagnostic test is a invasive procedure called venogram ( done by a catheter in the affected arm vein and contrast dye injected under x-ray ) this is the gold standard for VTOS dx. MRI or MRV or MRA is not the test of choice. the universal symptom of VTOS( aka effort thrombosis) is arm swelling.
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:56 PM #2
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I have heard physical therapy doesn't help venous TOS, though it might help with the neurogenic symptoms. Is this true? One surgeon told me it's all one disease anyway, but yet people keep saying there are different compression sites and therefore treatments must be different. I took physical therapy briefly for my TOS, but mine is venous. Couldn't tell if it was helping. I did seem to get a lot of muscle spasms while in physical therapy and now I don't have those spasms so I don't know if I want to go back to physical therapy.

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I have neurogenic type of tos and has been living with it since early 20s. I first felt the pain and the subsequent numbness and tingling in my left arm after a minor car accident. I thought at first it was just minor bruising and soreness related to the accident. As time went on these symptoms only worsened. I was seen over the period of few months by neurologist, orth, and neurosurgeons. All tests including MRI and EMGs were negative. I was told that all these may be in my head.

With much frustration and anger. I researched extensively on the topic. I think the most important thing for me is to resist the use of narcotics for pain control. Physical therapy and relaxation therapy helped me greatly, I also took on yoga for a few years that helped me to maintain good posture and strengthen my shoulder girdle. I am currently doing very well with minimal symptoms. only time I get some level of symptoms is when I spent all day in the operating room. As a vascular surgeon that treats TOS. I believe the field is full of controversies and may be even fraud, even amongst vascular surgeons.

I believe that the best way to approach treatment is through a multispecialized approach. As a surgeon I make money doing TOS surgery ( which everyone has to keep that in mind, that there is secondary gains there for the surgeons) but as a patient that is essentially cured by physical therapy I believe that physical therapy is perhaps the most important part of the equation. I would be very happy to answer any questions you all may have. hopefully, i can provide you all with some level of comfort and reassurance.
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Arterial TOS patients 99% of the time present with pulsatile mass in supraclavicular area related to the aneurysmal degeneration of subclavian artery. Is this noticeable?
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Welcome, You can make a new thread of your own here -
https://www.neurotalk.org/newthread....newthread&f=24

Explore our TOS sticky threads & the site search is helpful also.
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Hello, if your still around, may I ask what type of PT you’ve done, what type of exercises. If you respond, I have more questions if that’s ok. Thank you
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