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12-30-2012, 10:53 PM | #1 | ||
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I was just wondering if this has anything to do with TOS. When I have gone to the chiropractor and got a massage, they have always said that they can't get the knots to release. They are on my upper back, right below my shoulders. I have constant pain there. It feels like I'm giving a 40 child a piggyback ride. I also do have the tingling and burning down my arms as well as tingling in my fingers. The top of my hands feel the pulling, as well as red knuckles and swollen fingers. My left side is a lot worse. I feel pain in my thumb. It makes it hard to hold on to things.
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12-30-2012, 11:17 PM | #2 | |||
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Does the chiro or massage therapist know about trigger points?
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12-30-2012, 11:43 PM | #4 | ||
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The massage therapist does work on the trigger points. They do get the knots to come down, but by the time they turn me back over they are already stiffening up again. I do have a job where I lift heavy boxes and use my hands in a stretching, gripping, repetitive motion, not to mention stress over the top. I'm so close to retiring that I'm not trying for a WC. I just want to be fixed before I retire.
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Have you seen a vascular surgeon about these issues? It's sounding like you have some symptoms of venous TOS which usually needs (and responds well to) surgery. Just wondering who diagnosed you and what your plan of care is. It's always great to get into PT and whatnot, but if it's not working it may be a good idea to check out all your options. I don't take Tylenol or Ibuproen as it just doesn't do anything for me and I wake constantly as well. I'm heading under the knife on the 2nd and I have arterial/venous/neurogenic TOS so PT wasn't really expected to work for me anyway. I do wish you the best of luck in healing though :-( TOS is no fun.
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12-31-2012, 12:28 AM | #7 | ||
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I definitely wish you the best of luck. In the past 5 years I've seen 4 orthopedics, 1 rheumatologist, 2 neurologists, 4 physical therapists, 2 vascular surgeons, 1 thoracic surgeon, 3 PCPs, 1 chiropractor, 1 neuromuscular physical therapist, and a partridge in a pear tree. It is not at all uncommon to have TOS and have a nerve conduction/emg test come back negative, to experience weakness with no actual clinical findings, and normal blood work. It wasn't until I got a Doppler Ultrasound test that they found anything concrete that I had TOS at all and that was 2 weeks ago!! Most of us have done the doctor shuffle, so if you really believe this is your diagnosis, definitely check out the doctor post so you can find one that can diagnose and treat you. TOS is no joke and all aspects of treating it are very difficult so you need someone who really knows what's going on. |
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How long have you had these symptoms? What is avg daily pain level? How long til you retire? Have they done xray/MRI of c spine at all yet? That is usually a must have since c spine issues can also cause hand/arm pain & symptoms, c spine cause has to be ruled out. how is your upper body posture overall? head/shoulder forward /hunched? PT was not able to help me much while I was still working (production/assembly work) and it still took 2.5 yrs - some healing was delayed per WC baloney & MDs not being knowledgeable of TOS /chronic RSI/myofascial conditions. I did find an adv PT & a very good DC that helped me the most, plus all the misc things I found for self help/home therapy. here are a few things- http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/album.php?albumid=422 You might need to consider WC even if to cover the PT and check ups &/or any missed time - does wc in your state allows for you to seek your own treating dr. And if you decide to do WC then an wc atty (a good one) is a good idea, interview many before signing up with one. Find one with a good office & staff as they are the ones you will talk to the most.. usually a good atty should have a good office staff. I didn't realize this when I got my wc atty... TOS isn't usually something you can fully fix on your own & PT is costly. Luckily my DC was able to do the billing with little cost to me. He did PT type modalities along with adjustments. Compared to a few PT sessions I had at my regular MD's clinic - they said they tried to do the billing for the least amount out of pocket , but I always ended up with a bill.
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