[chroma]

So we get these spastically tight muscles such as the scalenes and the pec minor. We get PT for that and botox shots and surgery to remove or sever the muscle.

But why are the muscles spastically tight? How did we get like this?

[mspennyloafer]

pec minor is totally shoulder hypermobility for me

reaching movements are bad, i avoid reaching forward..and overhead obv is bad
squising the shoulder forward in my sleep is bad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu-FeatPgaU

(^might not apply to some people but fits me perfectly)

[chroma]

Thanks for the video. Looks interesting; I'll check it out.

Re: reaching, lots of people do lots of reaching, but don't have chronically tight muscles or TOS.

[mspennyloafer]

yeah sorry i meant with me reaching is bad because my shoulder is grossly hypermobile, my shoulders are downwardly rotated and floppy

here's a pic of how downward rotation messes up the bp

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/5818/clav.png

[chroma]

I see. My worst side is my left and it started with a downward tilted clavicle. Although I no longer have that issue, I still have TOS and chronic muscle tension.

[mspennyloafer]

yeah i know what you mean
i was against pec minor blocks but we'll see.

hypertrophied muscles are the worst

[TellerMomof3]

Originally Posted by chroma

I see. My worst side is my left and it started with a downward tilted clavicle. Although I no longer have that issue, I still have TOS and chronic muscle tension.

I also have extreme muscle tightness. Mostly in my traps and pec region. Sometimes warm baths help them.

But I am kinda like you guys, what caused the extreme tightness to begin with. My shoulder is winging, droopy, and curved forward. When I talked to Dr. Thompson, my understanding was, that it is still not a confirmed thing was to whether the droopy shoulder and curvature caused the TOS, or whether TOS caused the droopy shoulder.

My physical therapist said that she has seen this a lot in mothers that breastfeed from being slumped over while breastfeeding.

Hopefully with more time, and studies that can get to the bottom of what causes it.

[LiveLoveandTrust]

[QUOTE=TellerMomof3;944216]I

My physical therapist said that she has seen this a lot in mothers that breastfeed from being slumped over while breastfeeding.
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I've been pumping for over 14 months for my baby which is even worse because I have to slump to use gravity to get the milk out because a pump is not as effective at removing milk as a baby. I have noticed an extreme difference in my shoulders since doing it. I stand by my decision though and would do it all over again knowing that it would exacerbate my TOS.

[Jomar]

It is kind of like the chicken or the egg thing, what came first.
the muscle tightness affecting a nerve or vascular?
or the nerves/ vascular affecting the muscles..?

After awhile it becomes a circle of cause & effect..
then it usually becomes chronic myofascial issues even if you manage to get the worst of the TOS problems resolved...

[mspennyloafer]

exactly jomar

i think they need to rename pec minor syndrome
sticky armpit syndrome

its the lats/tripces/godknowshwhatelse