Thoracic Outlet Syndrome

mspennyloafer · 04-30-2013, 04:33 PM

i havent seen the whole video but his point about not stretching your neck bc it pulls up the rib is good

i dont agree with the shoulder stuff

he thinks tos is way under dx'd so that's probably how he's seen so many tos patients.

nospam · 04-30-2013, 11:38 PM

I watched the whole video and agree with much of it, including the shoulder stuff (TOS presents differently in all of us). I believe conservative management should be attempted before surgery and the therapist needs to be trained properly in rib mobilization. I wouldn't travel to see this guy expecting a miracle however.

http://teamdoctorsblog.com/2012/08/0...-dc-chapter-1/

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Team Doctors Chiropractic Treatment and Training Centers has been around for about 57 years. It has been a practice in our family for many years. Since 1986 we have had over 30,000 new patients. From 1992 – 2012 we have had approximately 4,000 new patients with some form of peripheral nerve symptoms originating either in the neck or lower back. Statistically, we have numerous cases of thoracic outlet syndrome. We have had a great amount of experience in working with patients with thoracic outlet syndrome.

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Conservative therapy vs Surgery

I always start every treatment with a 30 minute deep tissue massage treatment of the shoulders, chest, back neck, arms, forearms, hands and even the skull to warm up the area.

Conservative Management is Challenging because I have found that you have to administer deep tissue for over an hour on the first visit just to get through all the muscles that are compressing the outlet. Insurance doesn’t pay for a visit that long but I do it anyway. I don’t know if other doctors are willing to park over patients this long to get these spasms fully treated.

I have spent up to 30 hours doing deep tissue on severe thoracic outlet syndrome cases. They were headed for surgery and did not want it so you just do what it takes, right?

I know they would have never recovered if I would have treated them for the standard of care amount of time or gave them an adjustment without the extensive deep tissue.

Conservative management has been very challenging with thoracic outlet syndrome. The majority of the patients, over 90 %, in most cases are having surgery of the neck to remove the first rib or a cervical rib in the neck and also surgery to remove muscles in the neck. I don’t know about you, but no surgery looks very exciting for patients and it’s a very depressing and frightening experience for patients.

CatherineInPain · 05-13-2013, 10:43 PM

Hi guys,

I am a 28 yr old female who was diagnosed with Long Thoracic Nerve Palsy and Brachial Plexitis, if that means something to you.
I had a terrible accident on a boat and shattered my ankle but didn't notice any trauma to my shoulder. it was only after a month or two of being on crutches I noticed scapular winging and an inability to lift right shoulder over my head.
I assumed it was tight muscles due to crutches and ignored until a Physiotherapist urged me to see a Neurologist. The Neuro said that nothing could be done about my nerve injuries and that it may heal, and may not.

I have very little quality of life, have severe chronic pain in my neck and haven't been able to work in over a year. I have seen a chiropractor, and massage therapists and all the treatments help only very temporarily and are very expensive. I have run out of money and am running out of will. I just saw a rehab physician who told me it could take 3-5 years to get better. How is one supposed to support themselves and live with chronic pain on a daily basis. Even sleep is very uncomfortable I am sorry to whine on here but feel VERY lost and alone.
Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. For anyone else suffering with similar problems, I have switched to an electronic toothbrush and many kitchen gadgets such as the slap chop and a blender to help with cooking as that was a serious contributor to my pain. I have not noticed any improvement in 1 year. I am considering acupuncture, but again, is costly and may not help

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Hope to hear from someone, anyone!

Thank you for listening

Msudawg89 · 05-14-2013, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CatherineInPain

Hi guys,

I am a 28 yr old female who was diagnosed with Long Thoracic Nerve Palsy and Brachial Plexitis, if that means something to you.
I had a terrible accident on a boat and shattered my ankle but didn't notice any trauma to my shoulder. it was only after a month or two of being on crutches I noticed scapular winging and an inability to lift right shoulder over my head.
I assumed it was tight muscles due to crutches and ignored until a Physiotherapist urged me to see a Neurologist. The Neuro said that nothing could be done about my nerve injuries and that it may heal, and may not.

I have very little quality of life, have severe chronic pain in my neck and haven't been able to work in over a year. I have seen a chiropractor, and massage therapists and all the treatments help only very temporarily and are very expensive. I have run out of money and am running out of will. I just saw a rehab physician who told me it could take 3-5 years to get better. How is one supposed to support themselves and live with chronic pain on a daily basis. Even sleep is very uncomfortable I am sorry to whine on here but feel VERY lost and alone.
Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. For anyone else suffering with similar problems, I have switched to an electronic toothbrush and many kitchen gadgets such as the slap chop and a blender to help with cooking as that was a serious contributor to my pain. I have not noticed any improvement in 1 year. I am considering acupuncture, but again, is costly and may not help

.

Hope to hear from someone, anyone!

Thank you for listening

Be careful with acupuncture. You might try acupressure. The acupuncture irritated the nerve. I have damage to the long thoracic nerve as well my NeuroSurgeon says it takes a long time to heal. He did prescribe some compound pain medications. They help some. I feel your pain. I can't use my left arm much. I have chronic pain. Butrans patch has helped with pain. Also taking three 200mg twice a day helps the muscles. It is a natural relaxant.
Hope this helps. Happy to talk anytime.

MoneyInMind · 05-15-2013, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CatherineInPain

Hi guys,

I am a 28 yr old female who was diagnosed with Long Thoracic Nerve Palsy and Brachial Plexitis, if that means something to you.
I had a terrible accident on a boat and shattered my ankle but didn't notice any trauma to my shoulder. it was only after a month or two of being on crutches I noticed scapular winging and an inability to lift right shoulder over my head.
I assumed it was tight muscles due to crutches and ignored until a Physiotherapist urged me to see a Neurologist. The Neuro said that nothing could be done about my nerve injuries and that it may heal, and may not.

I have very little quality of life, have severe chronic pain in my neck and haven't been able to work in over a year. I have seen a chiropractor, and massage therapists and all the treatments help only very temporarily and are very expensive. I have run out of money and am running out of will. I just saw a rehab physician who told me it could take 3-5 years to get better. How is one supposed to support themselves and live with chronic pain on a daily basis. Even sleep is very uncomfortable I am sorry to whine on here but feel VERY lost and alone.
Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. For anyone else suffering with similar problems, I have switched to an electronic toothbrush and many kitchen gadgets such as the slap chop and a blender to help with cooking as that was a serious contributor to my pain. I have not noticed any improvement in 1 year. I am considering acupuncture, but again, is costly and may not help

.

Hope to hear from someone, anyone!

Thank you for listening

Are you able to apply for Social Security Disability?

16rhonda · 05-13-2013, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Msudawg89

Has anyone ever seen Dr Stoxen, DC for Thoracic Outlet Syndrome. He is in Chicago and he doesn't believe in surgery for TOS. He only sees one patient at a time and works on them for up to 16 hours a day. For out of town patients he works on you until you have no pain.

He. Doesn't Believe in surgery Bc he's a DC!

emmachase416 · 08-29-2019, 01:18 PM

A chiropractor who does not believe in surgery for TOS.

I have A-TOS. The Subclavian Artery is compressed. That can only be fixed by surgery.

Sounds like he is possible out for the money, eh?

Emma

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Originally Posted by Msudawg89

Has anyone ever seen Dr Stoxen, DC for Thoracic Outlet Syndrome. He is in Chicago and he doesn't believe in surgery for TOS. He only sees one patient at a time and works on them for up to 16 hours a day. For out of town patients he works on you until you have no pain.

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