Thoracic Outlet Syndrome Thoracic Outlet Syndrome/Brachial Plexopathy. In Memory Of DeAnne Marie.


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Old 03-13-2014, 11:08 PM #1
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Frustrating indeed.

I'm back to sleeping on my back and hoping for the best. Broken sleep, but it's better than no sleep.

I'm starting to wonder if my case is "positional" vs. "static." Reason: When a pull my shoulder blades back, the symptoms recede and when I let them naturally roll forward the symptoms re-emerge.

I've done TONS of rhomboid work to pull that shoulder back. I don't think there's much more I can do there. Those muscles are strong. This has to be be pec minor related where the pec minor is winning the "tug of war."

I had dropped the frequency of my pec minor tissue work to more of a "maintenance mode" situation. David Leaf indicated that was the right course of action. I have a feeling that this along with me upping my game in the gym to get the left shoulder/chest strong once again may have tightened the pec minor up again.

Waiting for a call back from Dr. Donahue. Going to bring up pec minor botox. Maybe this is something that I'll need on a regular basis.

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The trick is to be able to use the arms, without engaging the neck muscles, you can master that , TOS will go away. Cant be done alone you may need assistance from a PT to help re train that movement pattern, but for people like us that would be the cause id say.
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The trick is to be able to use the arms, without engaging the neck muscles, you can master that , TOS will go away. Cant be done alone you may need assistance from a PT to help re train that movement pattern, but for people like us that would be the cause id say.
I've forgotten about this completely. Not stressing the neck muscles.

On my fourth day of lying low. Been doing deep tissue for pec minor, subclavious, and rhomboids multiple times per day. Probably 5-6 times per day. Not seeing a hell of a lot of progress, but I'd imagine its too early.

Last time, it took about a week to see results and then the drop off in pain was significant after that.

Driving was next to impossible yesterday. Thank god I can work at home. We'll see if this starts to fade a bit over the weekend.

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Talked with Dr. Donahue this afternoon. Told him the story:

* Got better doing deep tissue and posterior exercises.
* Botox didn't seem to do anything.
* Symptoms all but disappeared.
* Went too hard for rehab.
* Symptoms re-emerged.

His advice was very similar to my wife's: Cut back on resistance training and get back to what I did originally for deep tissue work. Re-evaluate in a couple weeks.

He didn't think it makes sense to do any re-scanning, but did think that understanding how well pec minor tissue work seemed to do, that a pec minor botox shot could be a next step if things don't improve.

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I've forgotten about this completely. Not stressing the neck muscles.

On my fourth day of lying low. Been doing deep tissue for pec minor, subclavious, and rhomboids multiple times per day. Probably 5-6 times per day. Not seeing a hell of a lot of progress, but I'd imagine its too early.

Last time, it took about a week to see results and then the drop off in pain was significant after that.

Driving was next to impossible yesterday. Thank god I can work at home. We'll see if this starts to fade a bit over the weekend.

KY
Learn to use the Lower traps more then the upper, its about really learning how a "relaxed" neck feels so when you lift weights, you activate the correct muscles with out putting so much tension on ur scalenes/neck. We have very good soft tissue and rehab specialist here that taught me this stuff, neuromuscular re training, i recommend you look into it.
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