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Old 12-26-2013, 07:47 PM #11
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Nellyzen - thank you for starting the thread and sharing your experience with him thus far. I have seen one of Dr. Stoxen's presentations and he does seem knowledgeable. It is certainly enticing...and I have wondered about him...

Hopefully, other members of the forum can add to the thread and we can get a better picture of who this guy really is....

For now, I am still skeptical....
But, thanks again for sharing and starting this discussion.
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Old 12-26-2013, 08:15 PM #12
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I wish I lived in Chicago so I can see him in person. My cousins used to live there but recently moved to Denver, bummer.

I should probably ask to talk to some of his patients. The way he tells the stories...they are so dramatic: one guy went to 26 drs around the world before coming to me. You know, like a regular Joe. How can I regular Joe afford to travel to 26 countries?

I mean I'm not saying he is not capable of what he says he is, but the stories. I'm so confused. I could probably easily spend or not make this money in the next few months if this continues and I don't get better. It's difficult to be objective when there is so much at stake.

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I have considered the idea but not very seriously simply because what sounds too good to be true it usually is...unless the guy is a genius. I also don't like it when someone tells me "I am your only hope".
As I posted on a different thread, I spoke with Stoxen a while back and also got the same sales pitch and scare tactics: only he can cure me, I wouldn't recover if I didn't get treatment from him, ultimately I'd be saving money going to him. He seems to understand the mechanics of TOS, but the hard sell is off-putting and more importantly, there's no way a few days of 8 hr/day sessions will cure me. I've been dealing with TOS symptoms since 2009, have been to many therapists, tried many types of treatment, and have a pretty good idea what works and what won't. Though, wouldn't it be great if this chiropractor were the holy grail.
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Yeah, I don't like scare tactics and I've been in sales for about 10 years. Doesn't work on me.
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I can't find any reviews about him regarding TOS. Not a single one.

I wouldn't limit the searches to TOS only, there are many other debilitating conditions that he might have helped people with...

But if he did the hard sell thing...that would put me off too for certain..


I do agree though that other PTs or chiros or perhaps even osteopathic drs can be helpful - but seeking them out is the trouble as they might not even have TOS or similar conditions mentioned in the ad or website or phone book.

Basically you have to call or email them and ask questions to narrow down your choices, then go for an evaluation appt and see if there is a understanding or not..
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Yeah, I don't like scare tactics and I've been in sales for about 10 years. Doesn't work on me.
Based on my (few) good and (many) bad therapy experiences, I think the approach outlined here makes sense, at least for me: http://physical-therapy.advanceweb.c...-Syndrome.aspx But where to find a good PT is the issue.

I've found this book an invaluable resource for trigger point work: http://www.amazon.com/Trigger-Point-...+point+therapy (check out the reviews). There's a lot out there about trigger point treatment, most of which doesn't seem to work for me, but this approach is straight-forward, gentle, and for me effective. I've had debilitating headaches and jaw pain (prevented my chewing food for about a year) and these horrible symptoms are well under control, although not gone, largely due to my following trigger point work as explained here. Unfortunately, I've yet to find trigger point work effective for the pain radiating down both arms and into the hands.

Also see: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3109687/
The "Cyriax release maneuver" and first rib mobilization have somewhat helped relieve symptoms.
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I've had debilitating headaches and jaw pain (prevented my chewing food for about a year) and these horrible symptoms are well under control, although not gone, largely due to my following trigger point work as explained here.
Which trigger points did you find useful for the jaw pain?

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Also see: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3109687/
The "Cyriax release maneuver" and first rib mobilization have somewhat helped relieve symptoms.
Same here. Good stuff.
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I should probably ask to talk to some of his patients.
This seems like the logical next step.

His approach is definitely interesting. MDs won't do muscle therapy on you, and PTs and other chiros will typically only see you 1 - 3 hours a week which leaves a whole lot of hours in between for TOS to continue to progress.
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[QUOTE=chroma;1039691]Which trigger points did you find useful for the jaw pain?

SCM, scalenes, masseter, digastric.
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Google IL state license lookup. This doctor is currently on probation and has had complaints filed against him for false advertising. I tried posting a link, but it is telling me I need to have at least 10 posts.
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