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Old 12-27-2013, 08:42 PM #21
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I guess in a way I'm "relieved", I mean I wish there was a miracle cure but yes, it did seem to good to be true. Maybe he has cured some people but I certainly wouldn't want to spend that kind of money to find out he can't.
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Google IL state license lookup. This doctor is currently on probation and has had complaints filed against him for false advertising. I tried posting a link, but it is telling me I need to have at least 10 posts.
http://www.idfpr.com/Forms/DISCPLN/0605_dis.pdf
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Thanks for that info JJWI.

I looked him up at:
https://www.idfpr.com/licenselookup/LicenseLookup.asp

It says he's on probation. His offenses are:
2008 - Failure to pay state taxes
2006 - Deceptive advertising.
2000 - Allegedly practicing on a non-renewed license. $2500 FINE DUE WITHIN 60 DAYS
1996 - Allegedly inadequately maintained patient billing records and failed to document reasons for conducting certain tests. $3500 FINE PAYABLE IMMEDIATELY - PAID

At http://www.idfpr.com/Forms/DISCPLN/0605_dis.pdf it says James E. Stoxen, Chicago chiropractor license (038-005767) reprimanded and fined $2,500 for deceptive advertising." -- no other details. The "0605" in the filename stands for 2006-05 I believe and matches the record above.

No sanctions or malpractice found here:
http://www.doctorhelps.com/doctor/ja...ckground-check


Whether or not a 2006 violation of deceptive advertising is deal killer is up to each of us. I don't really care about his taxes or the older stuff. Honestly, if I lived by Chicago I probably would have just tried him already.

But I'm out in Cali and will be self treating my scalenes in 2014.
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So I had a talk with him and he said it would be as simple as 3-4 days of 8 hour sessions and that's it.

Now of course to someone who is desperate like me, this sounds like the Mecca of healing. I can't be objective about this, I want my life back, who doesn't?

Needless to say it would be a very expensive "adventure" and if it doesn't work? I haven't even tried PT or anything else, I guess I am simply very impatient. I want it over like....yesterday...if possible.
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Do I go to Chicago? Do I go live with some Buddhist monks who can teach me about patience?
OMG, after 20 years, No Way!!!!! Can the mechanisms behind TOS be cure in 4 days. The expense to, run, keep your cash. There is really nothing that doc is going to do you can't find with your own treatments. Know what causes your flares and reduces the pain.

Biofeedback back can be learned with medical coverage for psych that deals with chronic pain patients, or a great PT that massages, heat, Biofreeze ultra sound, TENs, being proactive to avoid flares of type A, personalities.

Many people that end up with TOS. Have an injury or anomalies. If the injury does not go away in a few months, such as a whiplash, then it is a long term issue.

Half of society has short fibrous bands that hold up the neck, repetitive activities, an injury, extra cervical ribs, larger ribs, many things could be in place only to be ignited from TOS incited flare.

The spasms of the muscles are trying to protect nerves. They are creating splints. That is why there are compressing tight spasms. Some things help loosen them, but the nerve is STILL flared!

Some meds, take away the activity that causes flares, massage, hot tub, Biofreeze, the modifications to your life help reduce or put into remission the flares. I use Valium for spasms as needed, pain meds as needed, trigger points, but more so....my maintenance plan is cervical epidural in the C/5 hump on the back of my neck.

The daily control then is the traps, the butcher knife in my back, and hands/wrists.

I have heard in our family twice from docs with statements to fix or cure...they have no idea what they are dealing with. This is not a sprain or typical spasm! They can do, and did so much harm it was breath taking looking back on it. But, when you hurt so bad, you pay anything to feel better.

I saw one on Judge Judy the other day. The woman signed the contract, he took the money, no where in the contract did he "state" cure. Promise to feel better, then you do have a response noted in the office records you left happy and feeling better...contract fulfilled. It is not cure, your best friend could rub your neck and shoulders apply a heating pad and you will feel better.

My dd was sent to PT early in her injury....as the top PT massaged her, he could feel the spasms travel, across to the other side, down her neck and her arms pulled up in pain to her chest.

Instantly she worsened never to even get to the point prior to that visit. THAT is how a typical PT can manage to escalate you, not understanding the mechanisms and feel your body responding, TOS specialist treat you with kid gloves, not promises.
Would you take a chance to lose that money and feel more pain?

Run, go to plan B. a physiatrist may be the best doc for now until you know if you are getting better or worse.
I do hope you find help, but concerning is the promises or statements said.

Sorry for typos, hands are cringing after holiday a activities took a toll.
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I guess in a way I'm "relieved", I mean I wish there was a miracle cure but yes, it did seem to good to be true. Maybe he has cured some people but I certainly wouldn't want to spend that kind of money to find out he can't.
How much does he charge?

I wasted alot of money on a chiro when I only had Degenerative disc diagnosis, and it kept getting worse. when I brought up TOS possibility he didnt believe me so I stopped seeing him but not after I spent a couple thousand dollars. it was $225 a visit. he did fancy traction on me which I have since found out can be bad for TOS.
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I absolutely have concerns that go beyond the financial aspect of it, that is why I started this thread.

I have considered the idea but not very seriously simply because what sounds too good to be true it usually is...unless the guy is a genius. I also don't like it when someone tells me "I am your only hope".

Yes, I do want the TOS to go away tomorrow if possible but since it has taken so much time for other people, I understand it's a process...that's why I'm very wary when someone tells me they can cure me in 4 days.

I will def try PT first...I'm still adjusting to my condition and I'm just very frustrated.

He just sounds so much like a salesperson instead of a medical professional...basically doing the math for me ( since I'm losing money anyways because I can't work) trying to convince me it's actually not that expensive. Did not address my concerns very much, just kept telling me he can cure me and this condition is very easy to treat, but only by him.

I also spoke to Dr Stoxen. In theory I think his procedures could help. My neurological chiropractor said it could help but you don't know how long it will last. I think it depends on your TOS.
I am still unsure as you are about Dr Stoxen's methods and cost. The one thing that bothered me was he said I shouldn't have had surgery for my TOS and he might not be able to help me because I had a piece of my muscle removed in surgery.
I would like to talk to someone who has seen Dr Stoxen.
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So I had a talk with him and he said it would be as simple as 3-4 days of 8 hour sessions and that's it.

Now of course to someone who is desperate like me, this sounds like the Mecca of healing. I can't be objective about this, I want my life back, who doesn't?

Needless to say it would be a very expensive "adventure" and if it doesn't work? I haven't even tried PT or anything else, I guess I am simply very impatient. I want it over like....yesterday...if possible.

Do I go to Chicago? Do I go live with some Buddhist monks who can teach me about patience?
I have never been diagnosed with TOS but the title of your thread caught my attention so I read all the posts to date. I found each and every one of them extremely interesting and very good points made by each poster.

My gut reaction when I read the thread title and your first comment was to say RUN, RUN AWAY as fast as you can. I am sorry but from what you have said in your posts, this guy sounds like he is selling snake oil to me. Maybe he has helped some people but maybe that was a fluke. Maybe they would have gotten better without him. Again, I am not well versed about TOS but it just sounds "fishy" and "too good to be true" to me. Just my opinion.
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After starting PT and chiro and seeing how sore and painful everything is, I am now 100% sure that I could not have handles 8 hours a day of massage if that were indeed the cure.

Glad common sense won the fight.
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I'm a former patient of Dr. Stoxen.


He is a chiropractor working on a probationary license with the illinois dept of financial and professional regulations. He has been disciplined several times. That is public record.
Google it. I put the link on but had to remove it since I'm a newbie here.


He hides his license on the wall cuz it's not active. Red flag......

Sigh......


And no he did not cure me in a few days. I could go on and on but the bottom line is I regret ever going to him and wasting my time and
money. he is knowledgable but extremely unprofessional in his comments and actions. he violated hippaa so Many times. (He trash talks other patients) .

I had that massage Assist machine. it was okay . he tried to get me to buy it.
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Take a look in your PM Tos gal. Thank you


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