Thoracic Outlet Syndrome Thoracic Outlet Syndrome/Brachial Plexopathy. In Memory Of DeAnne Marie.


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Old 08-11-2014, 08:44 PM #11
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I looked up Ken Best too-i think a friend of mine used to see him.I looked at his website but decided not to see him. Celebrity Chiros are usually very expensive. I would call him first to see if he knows anything about TOS. I would think about seeing a chiro or pt that is familiar with TOS. I can give you a couple of names. Usually they do not diagnose-they just treat you for the symptoms. I have seen 2 here: Dr. Horrigan and Dr. Kleinbrodt. Dr. Horrigan knows alot about TOS, but he mostly does soft tissue work. Dr.Kleinbrodt does Active Release Technique. I have been meaning to try Dr. Kleinbrodt again. I would highly recommend going to O county if you can to see Dr. Ando.
Yes, you're probably right about Ken Best. So would you recommend Dr. Ando over the other two chiros? Due to the limited length of stay and other plans, I probably won't be able to have more than a couple of sessions. Thanks!
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Old 08-12-2014, 09:43 PM #12
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Hi I've been browsing here for the past few months after a year of scouring the internet trying to find out what my condition was. I apoloize for this long post but I would really like to hear some feedback. Here's my story:

I began to have pain in my right thumb about 4-5 years ago, which I attributed to heavy mouse use, as I sit and work at a desk all day. I began alternating between right and left hand when using the mouse to alleviate some of th pain. Consequently, my left thumb began to hurt.
After a few months, the pain spread to my index, middle and sometimes my ring fingers, on both sides. Of course I immediately thought of carpal tunnel.
The pain was still manageable so I "worked" through it and began stretching and massaging my fingers often (strangely, there was no pain in my wrists).

This went on for about a year until my son was born and I developed golfer's elbow (both sides) which I attributed to picking up my son frequently. I had a cortisone shot in my left elbow which cleared it up but was ineffective in my right. After a few months and some research, decided to try prolotherapy on my right elbow, which was very effective. Had an MRI done through this point which a slight compression in cervical spine but nothing significant enough to warrant the kind of pain I was having with my hands. Was prescribed and began taking neurontin along with deep tissue massage and accupuncture but nothing helped much.

However, a month after that I developed a compression in my ulnar nerve (right), which left my ring and pinky with numbness and pins and needles. Did a lot of stretching exercises to no avail.

Beginning in 2014, boths arms (biceps and forearms) were getting numb with pins and needles, especially when I've been on the comuter for an extended period of time. Left side was more severe. It seems that sitting with my arms extended in front of me is the worst position. Had and EMG (clean) and elbow MRI which showed slight ulnar compression. I'm now using a mouse with the pad on my lap as this is the most comfortable position. Typing this difficult and all 10 fingers have shooting pain along with pins and needles.

I've also had a clicking left shoulder for as long as I can remember but only recently has it been hurting. The clicking occurs when I rotate it or move it back and forth.

I've been to 7 doctors here in Korea and no one seems to be able to diagnose my problem. Over the years, my pain has been spreading upward from my fingers to my arms and now my left shoulder.

Having read your posts and doing some research, I suspected it might be TOS or perhaps pec minor syndrome as my chest has some numbness as well. I've been doing a lot of stretches for this and it has heled minimally.

Finally to the point: I will be in L.A on vacation and decided to see Dr. Sheldon Jordan for consultation to see if he can shed some light on this.
1. Do you think he's the right shoice given my symptoms?
2. Is there another Dr. you think I should see? I'm reluctant to see a surgeon since it seems their first instinct is to go for surgery.
3. Dr. Sheldon's asst. said I'd be given a block (scalene I assume) and maybe botox thereafter. Any idea on the cost? I'm an expat so I have no U.S insurance and will be paying out of pocket.
4. I'm also planning to visit a chiro. Ken Best I think his name is. Any experience with him?

Thank you so much for reading this and I look forward to your comments.
No he is no help, stay away.
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Old 08-13-2014, 01:26 PM #13
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Yes, you're probably right about Ken Best. So would you recommend Dr. Ando over the other two chiros? Due to the limited length of stay and other plans, I probably won't be able to have more than a couple of sessions. Thanks!
Yes definately. Dr Ando is a Physical Therapist and very knowledgable about TOS. Heather is very good also if you cant get in to see him twice. He will give you an exercise plan to do at home. Where will you be staying? Will you have a car. He is in Anaheim hills, at least an hour away. You will need to make appointments in advance as these dr's are all hard to get into. JKL
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No he is no help, stay away.
Lisa- I would like to know why you say this and if you have seen someone else in L.A. who you think is a better diagnostician. I saw 3 Dr's in L.A. before I saw Dr. Jordan. The main drawback is he is out of network so it becomes cost prohibitive to see him. I am looking for someone else who takes insurance, if you know of anybody, but for me he was very helpful.
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No he is no help, stay away.
Lisaboy, I'm not sure if you're referring to Dr. Jordan or Ken Best? Dr. Jordan seems to have a great reputation on this forum. I've made an appointment with both hime and Dr. Gelabert.

JKL, I've also made an appt. with Dr. Ando. I'll be staying a few days in Laguna Beach which I believe is closer to his office. And of course, I'll have a rental car.

I really am hoping this is just a pec minor issue which seems to be more easily resolved, even through surgery.

From reading this forum, I can tell that my condition/symptoms are not as debilitating as some of the members. But, it is not getting better and maybe getting progressively worse.
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Lisaboy, I'm not sure if you're referring to Dr. Jordan or Ken Best? Dr. Jordan seems to have a great reputation on this forum. I've made an appointment with both hime and Dr. Gelabert.

JKL, I've also made an appt. with Dr. Ando. I'll be staying a few days in Laguna Beach which I believe is closer to his office. And of course, I'll have a rental car.

I really am hoping this is just a pec minor issue which seems to be more easily resolved, even through surgery.

From reading this forum, I can tell that my condition/symptoms are not as debilitating as some of the members. But, it is not getting better and maybe getting progressively worse.
Since you are staying in Laguna beach I suggest you contact marc (suffering in orange county) and read his thread. He may have a Dr. in Orange county that can diagnose you who is cheaper than Dr. Jordan, or at least for a second opinion. And yes you are much closer to Dr. Ando than to the others, thats good; you should try to see him or Heather as many times as you can.
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