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jcechop 08-22-2015 09:36 AM

Thanks for taking the time to answer me Romans 8. The car wreck happened in 1999. I was 20 and didn't know that I should've gone to see an ortho. My gen practicioner just put me in a sling. Years later after having kids and dealing with the frustrations that I can't throw a ball without pain, I decided to see an ortho. He just did general rehab and stretched my scapula out. They told me there wasn't a fix because the pop and grinding in my shoulder was just scar tissue that would come back. Jump forward 5 years later and the pain from just doing push-ups or a plank or anything trying to get into some shape other than round drove me to go back to the ortho. He's reputable and comes highly regarded. He send me to Kibler across the state in Lexington. This man seemed to really be the first person to ever understand and even explain in words that I've used about how it feels. Tells me about this surgery he's done over 250 times now and the wonderful life these other people have from it. Then he tells me about the rehab and it sort of scares me off from it a bit. I started wondering if it was even worth it. What if it doesn't fix it? What if it causes even more pain and issues? So I researched him and that's how I found you guys. Romans 8's post showed up in Google and he had been to this guy. Even had the same surgery. I know you can't tell me if it work, but given what I've told you above and what your experience and knowledge of the procedure is, do you think this would be my best course of action?

romans8 08-22-2015 10:07 AM

I do not want to in any way advise you. All I can say is it didn't resolve anything for me despite being told it worked for 99% of others. I have gotten to where I take these high percentages doctors state with a grain of salt.

With that said I would not let the rehab scare you. It's not that bad. The real question is how confident are you this is your problem? Exhaust all options to get an accurate diagnosis. Exhaust all attempts to rehab without surgery.

jcechop 08-22-2015 10:19 AM

My only confidence tin this diagnosis really comes from the way he was able to describe exactly how it felt. He seemed to be the only person I've ever seen that understood. All other orthos chalked it up to scar tissue. And once I watched the YouTube video of his presentation and researched his credentials I felt a little more confident. But still the downtime and rehab cause me to take a step back. I'm not sure who else to turn to at this point for another opinion. Dry needling seemed to help the pain and relieve the muscle tension but gradually it came back. I think that may just be a bandaid. I'm right handed, but because of this injury my strong arm is now my left. What other avenues would you suggest? I realize you don't want to just tell me to have the surgery. And I can appreciate that. This is the only place that I know to go right now though for some help and advice outside of doctors, and they typically just want to dismiss or cut to quieten. I don't think they understand the pain or the problem because the tests they are so accustomed to using as road maps didn't show them what's wrong. Like you said, it's muscular.

Jomar 08-22-2015 11:21 AM

Have you explored our TOS sticky threads?
The more you learn the better options & choices you can make-
stickys are in the upper section on the linked page-
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/forum24.html

WeeKahu 06-25-2018 03:54 AM

Scapular Reattachment Surgery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jcechop (Post 1164961)
My only confidence tin this diagnosis really comes from the way he was able to describe exactly how it felt. He seemed to be the only person I've ever seen that understood. All other orthos chalked it up to scar tissue. And once I watched the YouTube video of his presentation and researched his credentials I felt a little more confident. But still the downtime and rehab cause me to take a step back. I'm not sure who else to turn to at this point for another opinion. Dry needling seemed to help the pain and relieve the muscle tension but gradually it came back. I think that may just be a bandaid. I'm right handed, but because of this injury my strong arm is now my left. What other avenues would you suggest? I realize you don't want to just tell me to have the surgery. And I can appreciate that. This is the only place that I know to go right now though for some help and advice outside of doctors, and they typically just want to dismiss or cut to quieten. I don't think they understand the pain or the problem because the tests they are so accustomed to using as road maps didn't show them what's wrong. Like you said, it's muscular.


JceChop: Did you have the surgery? I had scapular reattachment surgery recently (different doc) and happy to answer any questions. Also had TOS surgery which did not resolve the pain.


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