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08-10-2019, 05:05 AM | #1 | ||
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Kjetil Larsen has me doing shrugs with very light weights or an elastic band, and more excersises to help strengthen neck muscles. I think these can be found on YouTube (??). I can only do a few of these and only 2x week. I get really sore/tight muscles in neck afterwards. Don’t see any results with this yet, but have only been doing it since end of June and only 2x week. I think it will just take time. Yes, I agree that 10 days is probably way to short (but I don’t know) to expect improvement, who helped you with your routine? Maybe you’re doing the excersises too often?? I was told that if I do my excersises correctly, they should be done slowly, 1 set to moderate fatigue, 2 x week that I should expect to have a mild worsening of my symptoms, but not for more than 1-2 days. I get this, mostly tender and tight scalenes and sore shoulder (I do some shoulder excersises because of some damaged muscles do to wrong shoulder posture and wrong use of shoulder blades over many years). Sometimes my fingers tingle more and I have a general achy feeling on my right side-my worse side. I don’t know what monkey shrugs are or the diagonal slides. I think it’s probably normal to be sure and tight a few days. Good luck with your recovery! Hope you find some relief! Have you checked out Kjetil Larsen on YouTube? He has a website, but I can’t post website name in here. He does a lot of online appointments with people who can’t come to his clinic, it’s pricy but probably worth it if you can do it. His clinic is called Trening og rehab in Norwegian and I think it’s Training and rehab in English?? Things I have learned from him about my TOS and TOS in general: -never ever!!!!pull shoulders back and down as it crushes brachial plexus and can contribute to damage shoulder muscles -lift shoulders 1-2 cm straight up, this helps my ulnar pain, but it takes a lot of time to get used to keeping this posture. -get out of the cervical hinge-neck should be long (probably on YouTube) - all excersises should be done slowly!!! It targets the muscle you’re working in, not all the other muscles. This makes the excersises much more effective and it’s much harder to do them. Again! Good luck! Last edited by SAHOL78; 08-10-2019 at 05:38 AM. |
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08-11-2019, 12:39 PM | #2 | ||
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First of all, thank you for your feedback. This said, I hope sincerely that you will soon get improvement and cure by doing Kjetil's program. To answer your question, i went in a shrug's regimen since Dontbeamelvin wrote on this thread that he underwent improvement by doing them on consistent basis and also i have watched Kjetil Larsen videos on youtube that advocate traps and scalenes strenghtening. Moreover, if i well understood your sayings, you are to do 1 set of shrug 2 times per week and also 1 set of scalene's Kjetil's exercise 2 times per week ? Is it what Kjetil Told you ? If i am right, i was maybe doing way too much since during this 10-12 days, i daily did 3 sets of 8 reps of "monkey shrugs" (without any weights by the way). For "monkey shrugs", you could find some vids on youtube that show this exercise (i think it is basically the same exercise your are doing for your upper traps). Thank you again in advance for your thoughts and God bless you in your struggle against TOS. |
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08-14-2019, 11:05 AM | #3 | ||
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Yes if you overdo it you will really increase your pain. You should only have a slight increase if you do the exercises correctly. The biggest thing that has helped me so far is raising the shoulders straight up about 1/2 inch. This has made a dramatic improvement after a couple of weeks.
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08-16-2019, 08:52 AM | #4 | ||
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I'm really happy for your continuous recovery. This said, i have a few question for you that are the following ? 1) Before things got better for you, did you have pain/disconfort in your ulnar nerve, from shoulder to little finger (that is now my case) ? 2) If it was the pain, how long did it it take to relief these ulnar symptoms by constantly raising your shoulder blade (in other words shrugging) ? 3) Also, have you had "first rib mobilization" ? I ask you because a chiro show me a self rib mobilization's exercise and I have the feeling it has increased my discomfort in this ulnar zone.. Thank you again for your thoughts. God bless you. |
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08-16-2019, 11:42 AM | #5 | |||
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I will add, there is no one thing that works for everyone..it takes some experimenting to find what works for you..
But if something you try increases your pain/discomfort for more than a few days, you either pushed too much or it isn't the thing for you.. Baby steps to adding any activity is the best way to move forward.. pushing too hard will set you back.. Many with TOS have the delayed pain, a day or so after the activity.. (even a dr visit or PT) so that is something to be aware of also..
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08-19-2019, 01:39 PM | #6 | ||
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I have overdone my work outs several times since I had my Skype appointment with Kjetil. It is really easy to overdo because you want to get better fast! However the body just does not work like that. Like I always say, it likely took you years/months to get here. It can take years/months to get you out. The key is knowing how to get out so you have a clear path to recovery. Good luck |
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08-19-2019, 01:59 PM | #7 | |||
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You have to approach all parts, spasms and or trigger points in the muscles as well as any stuck or raised top rib..
Just focusing on 1 part will not do much in the long term.. Other areas to look at - pec minor lymph drainage overall body postures & uses.. past whiplash or old injuries sleeping postures- pillows/mattresses ergonomics site search can find those topics for more on them..and more in the sticky threads.. https://www.neurotalk.org/search.php
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08-20-2019, 11:48 AM | #8 | ||
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And so, if i well understood you, you didn't experimented instant relief of your arm pain with elevating/shrugging your shoulder blade ? How many days/weeks did it took roughly before your had relief of your arm's pain with this shoulder blade's constant elevation ? I thank you again for your thoughts. Best wishes for your recovery |
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08-26-2019, 03:29 AM | #9 | ||
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Good luck with your improvement. I’m on the train to my next appointment with Kjetil right now. We’ll see what that brings😂 |
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08-26-2019, 11:03 AM | #10 | |||
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You might want to search the site for lyrica experiences.. before you get too far into it.. If you haven't web searched it yet.. some have issues with it..
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