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Old 10-06-2006, 07:00 PM #1
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Question Botox Injections

Anyone had them?
Anyone worked with Dr Sheldon Jordan in Santa Monica? I just started seeing him and am interested to find if anyone has had any luck with this procedure.


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I haven't but here is some info I found-
from this site- http://www.geocities.com/la_rsi/treatmnt.html?20066

Dr. Allen Weinberger, a rheumatologist at Cedars Sinai, has been given an excellent recommendation. He is said to be very good at treating TOS and an excellent diagnostician.

The following recommendations for healthcare providers in the West LA area were recently submitted by a member. These doctors and therapists have been helpful in the treatment of TOS.

"Dr Samuel Ahn at UCLA is a vascular surgeon who is a TOS expert (the most senior of the 3 in the vascular dept). He took over Herbert Machleder's patients (Dr Machleder is retired and is a well-known TOS expert). Dr Ahn also treats reflex sympathetic dystrophy (RSD) and knows how to recognize it, so this is an added bonus. 310-206-6294.

Dr Ernestina Saxton at UCLA is a neurologist who specializes in TOS and migraines. She performs a very thorough neurological exam. She does not take Workers Comp. 310-794-9551.

Dr James Collins at UCLA does the 3D brachial plexus MRI (a highly specialized MRI for TOS). If you have only one test, this is the one to have - Collins spends an additional 1 1/2 hours (after the 1 1/2 hour MRI) to walk you through what he sees in the films. Referral from doctor is needed. 310-794-1450.

Dr Sheldon Jordan (affiliated with UCLA) is excellent at giving nerve and muscle blocks. Trust this man with a needle! For TOS, he gives scalene blocks; for RSD, he gives stellate ganglion (SG) blocks. He also does BoTox. He is popular and has a long wait. His assistant can be reached at 310-829-5968.

UCLA physical therapists for TOS: Diane Maeda and Joyce Wilkinson are two of their senior physical therapists. 310-794-1323."

Should you want to learn more about your treating physician, under CA state law you now have access to information on doctors' histories that was formerly kept private. If a doctor has had a disciplinary action by a hospital or has had a court or private judgement against them, that information is now publicly available, even if the Medical Board of California has not acted against the doctor. Go to http://www.medbd.ca.gov for more information. You can also check your doctor's credentials and complaints against her/him (info for many states available) at the Association of State Medical Board Executive Directors.

A member of one of the Northern California support groups passed the two following names along to us:

Dr. Phil Harber (UCLA Occupational & Environmental Medicine) supposedly good for treating CTS: (310) 794-8144; COEH 204-8144

Dr. Anthony Alter at Cedars Sinai (310) 659-2910

Dr. JienSup Kim, Doctor of Physiatry in Loma Linda, (909) 478-6277.

Dr. William Mealer at (310) 546-3461. We are told that Dr. Mealer really listens to you. He's treating a member of LA RSI who has TOS. Dr. Mealer is in Manhatten Beach.

Dr. Auerbach at (818) 901-6600, ext. 3890 in Van Nuys.

Dr. Joan F. Wright is now at 2300 S. Flower #200, Los Angeles 90007, 213/747-6581.

and this-
http://www.tellmeabouttos.com/mytos/nc1.htm

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been there done that it was pure hell
the muscles you use are then paralized and you have no control.......so other muscles take over which means that you get more pain.......

feel freee to pm me if you want more info.

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I did once, but for the cost I have to wait on wokmans Comp for more.... They took 3 or 4 days to kick in and was bliss for about 5 weeks! Now due to cost when I am in a major flare I get trigger point injections... done by somebody who knows what they are doing these start working in minutes and the flare is sttled for a bit...only problem being bi-lateral I end up getting stuck in 8-10 places... but the pain is worth the gain>>>>>>> peace unto all !!!!

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The one doctor I saw said I was not a candidate for Botox - not sure why.
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Before Botox, if your doctor is able, try Trigger Point injections, I feel that they work great, unforunately, they only last so long and if you do not play superman when give and give them a chance to work and some hot baths they give the body/nerve center a break away from all the pain.

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jamy - I'd see about some other opinions - but I think as Mark suggests maybe try trigg. point inj. first?? before Botox
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Can anyone explain the difference between nerve bock injections and trigger point injections?
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Like Johannakat asked - what are the differences between 'trigger point injections' and 'nerve blocks'? I assume nerve blocks use some sort of local anesthetic but not sure what a trigger point injection is....
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I don't have first hand knowledge of either injections but I looked up some interesting links about trigger points vs tender points and the treatments for them.
Links below- also explore the sites for more info

http://www.aafp.org/afp/20020215/653.html
http://www.neurologychannel.com/tpi/
http://www.spineuniverse.com/display...ticle1854.html
http://www.medicinenet.com/trigger_p...on/article.htm
http://www.painandwellness.com/spina...ger_point.html
http://www.trigger-point-injections.com/injection.htm

I guess that's enough for now - I get carried away when i start looking for info- LOL

Some of these have nerve block info also.

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