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astern 04-06-2008 08:34 AM

Can your desk have a keyboard 'tray' mounted on it? Like a small shelf that slides out from under the desk? Might keep your arms closer to your body while typing.

A mousepad won't fit there so you'd still have to have an arm 'out' for mousing. When I'm in a really bad way I will rest the mousepad on my thigh and mouse from there - but it's only good for a minute or so.

Sometimes there are 'have to' things that won't wait for a flare-up to pass.

(Broken Wings) 04-07-2008 03:46 PM

I have been there, too.
 
I had written a good thread but couldnt locate it to forward to you. I have found a few things that help. 3" balloons blown up and placed under my armpits helped my TOC. I use Lidoderm 5% patches for painfull areas on my arms. Kinesio Tape, it's a Japanese or Chinese healing technique in which this tape is designed on the adhesive side to lift up the skin just enough that it allows the lymphatic fluids to flow. I have an aligment board I bought off of QVC I place between my scapulas and do some flexion and extension exercises. I also have found keeping a blanket over my shoulders and scapulas and front of brachial plexus to keep that area warm is a tremendous helps. looks stupid in the summertime, but it will keep you from taking pain relievers. Don't give up. THere are things that will give you relief.

Later,
(Broken Wings)






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Originally Posted by Horizontal One (Post 242975)
Hope this makes sense as my brain is scrambled at the moment. Am tired in pain and really fed up.

When I sit upright and rest arms out in front on a table my arms become more painful, colder(like ice blocks) and the colour changes are quite spectacular. I need to try and rest them in front on cushions (bead filled) but even so they feel so heavy and painful all the time. :(

I presume this is pressure related, though I do not lean on them , that is not good at all). Just do not know what position if any will help. It is like the more upright the more "traction"related pain I get. My neck does not feel like it wants to support my head and I never seem to look like my head is held in vertical alignment, Tried a collar once but that made matters worse, particularly as have those pressure/fulness sensations around my throat. I would love to lie flat as am sure that would help but cannot due to breathing issues.

Any advice. I know this is something we have had big posts on before about getting comy, but wondered what else have anyone tried?:confused:

Love Hx


Horizontal One 04-09-2008 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (Broken Wings) (Post 253664)
I had written a good thread but couldnt locate it to forward to you. I have found a few things that help. 3" balloons blown up and placed under my armpits helped my TOC. I use Lidoderm 5% patches for painfull areas on my arms. Kinesio Tape, it's a Japanese or Chinese healing technique in which this tape is designed on the adhesive side to lift up the skin just enough that it allows the lymphatic fluids to flow. I have an aligment board I bought off of QVC I place between my scapulas and do some flexion and extension exercises. I also have found keeping a blanket over my shoulders and scapulas and front of brachial plexus to keep that area warm is a tremendous helps. looks stupid in the summertime, but it will keep you from taking pain relievers. Don't give up. THere are things that will give you relief.

Later,
(Broken Wings)

Thanks for that. I always keep my arms and neck and hands warm, cold and my hands just do not like each other. I think I will try the balloon idea that sounds interesting. Not head about the tape, will have to look that one up.

Thanks again everyone for your advice. The bed looks like the pillow and soft toy mountain...Anything to support bits of me!!

Bye for now...
HX

Horizontal One 04-25-2008 09:53 AM

I hve just founf a site selling bands that go round the wrists. They are marketed for Raynauds sufferers and help to keep the hands warm. They are not disimilar to sweat bands but not as thick and different composition. I am soing to get a trial pack and see how thry go. My hands are so cold so I will try anything. I will try and add the site to next post (hope I remember)
I am trying the position with palms upright, but I do find that I do that without thinking about it. Looking into others.

Thanks for all the help and suggestions. Someone mentionep putting a bandaid on their neck so that when neck dropped foward when typing she knew she was not usong her eyes to view the screen and thus putting strain on the neck and surrounding areas.

Hx:Thank you:

thursday 04-25-2008 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Horizontal One (Post 266175)
Thanks for all the help and suggestions. Someone mentionep putting a bandaid on their neck so that when neck dropped foward when typing she knew she was not usong her eyes to view the screen and thus putting strain on the neck and surrounding areas.

There's another one for ya! You can use first aid tape and have a helper affix it on your skin in the same area where bra straps would be (one strip on the left shoulder one on the right). This trick is to help the same way as the bandaid. When you start to shrug up and create tension in your shoulder girdle, you'll feel the tape go taut. :D That's a Sharon Butler trick (I think!!).

towelhorse 04-25-2008 09:12 PM

maybe it using ones arms that is causing TOS
 
if holding ones arms out in front of ones body makes tos worse and putting ones arm in a sling makes it better and taping ones shoulder back makes it better. and PTs notice that people with TOS have shoulder forward posture but pulling the shoulders back causes it to be worse( one of the tests for bringing on the symptoms)
then maybe the cause of TOS is those muscles which should be holding the shoulders in there proper position are not working correctly?
and maybe the way to stop the nerves being compromised through the Thoracic outlet ( the shoulder girdle is very significant in this equation) is to fix the shoulder girdle.
regards towelhorse


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