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Old 12-16-2013, 03:18 PM #11
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Default Hi lara

Psychtrist diagnosed him tourettes he does have mild vocal tics but more physical tics.he has had a short time wiv cbt but ash couldnt cope wiv it so they knocked it on the head.Here in the uk speech languagr/ educational psyhcoligists wont normally comment on what they think cos they wont step on the mental health teams toes. But one e/p observed him in a class an she said she saw alot of autistic traits in him. And the speech n language reports also sounds like he is too but no one will speak up and support me on this. He gets upset if there are weather warnings he gets upset if a supply teacher takes over his regular teacher or she doesnt have the same teaching style or if we av a takeaway meal he expects it to happen nearly evrry night. He gets obsessed easy wiv people and situations. How do u think its best to deal wiv these horrible meltdowns lara? And tbh i dont av much support i deal wiv it on my own cos hubby dont get it. Hugs x
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Sorry you're doing this on your own. Sometimes people don't 'get it' because they don't understand it or don't want to understand it.

Meltdowns. That's the really difficult question. It sounds as if a lot of the meltdowns come from his rigidity and dislike of change and routine. You really need to get some professional advice about this Katy. It is too difficult to deal with on your own esp. now your son is older. It's hard for people to understand that it's not just someone having anger management issues, it's far deeper than that. Keeping your son safe and keeping yourself safe and family safe during an episode is paramount. I did find that backing out of situations was a positive option. It sort of de escalated the episode. It's impossible to stop those changes in his routine and as he gets older you'll find he'll adapt more, but in the meantime you need to get some help.
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Here is a pdf regarding cycle of tantrums rage and meltdowns. It has some helpful info. in it, Katy.

It's got a few good tips there even tough it appears very basic. Don't forget there are suggestions in the TS ones in the post up above... from the TS Plus site. This one below is specifically regarding Autism though.

http://www.researchautism.org/resour...tdowns_002.pdf
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Thankyou so much u av bn very helpful i appreciate u time answering my questions thanks x
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Ash had another meltdown he was isolated for saying inapropiate comments to kids in his class and shouting at teacher he then proceded to shout fxcking bxtch to another teacher nxt day they isolated from his fav lesson he went into meltdown and punched the walls hence school rang and asked me to take him to hospital.Luckily it looked worse than what it is .but everytime ash visits hospital its normally cos he punched a wall
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Hi Katy, Sounds just awful.

It's very difficult for me to know what to suggest with the situation so bad and knowing so little.

What happens at the hospital when you go there with him?

This type of behaviour is really not related to his tics/TS and because he's only currently diagnosed with TS and OCD, I'm at a loss to know what his treating Psychiatrist is thinking.

Have you had sit down meetings with the school staff at all, just you and hubby, and I also wondered if he's in a regular classroom setting?

I really can't say it more clearly than to say this sounds like CRISIS time and I'm wondering what type of support agencies there are in your area where you can get professional help to sort out so many of these concerns you have... like your concerns he is on Autism Spectrum. Because I'm not in the UK, I have no idea on how the system works but I wonder if you have access to centres where you can get some help and guidance. We can do that here where I live... either with private practitioners or in Youth and Mental Health Services which are often run out of major hospitals. You also might find that a Psychologist could be more helpful than a Psychiatrist in your son's situation. It's one thing to dish out medications but there's so much more that sounds as if it's being neglected.

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http://www.tourettes-action.org.uk/8-find-support.html
http://www.tourettes-action.org.uk/10-ta-groups.html
TS Support Groups - Eng, Wales and Northern Ireland

I also just found this link below on that AutismUK site I showed you earlier.
Even though you don't have an Autism diagnosis and that might not be what is going on for him at all, but considering your concerns about Autism, it wouldn't hurt to talk to someone from the support groups.
http://www.autism.org.uk/directory

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Default Thanx 4 the links lara

Ash is under the child mental health team and its convincing him he also has mild autism .I have rang them and left a message to ring me.School got a autistic lady in to give them at school some ideas even thou they wont say hes autistic he also got invited in the summer to a social skills group .as everyone says he has poor social skills.It really is like hitting brick walls convincing these people at the child mental health alot of obseervers have said they have seen the traits but nobody will come up against the child mental health team and support me.I think if they give there opinion they could get in trouble.sighs....
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I had the same difficulty here actually. Lack of knowledge about Tourettes at the time made things extra hard. The doctors were lumping absolutely everything under the TS umbrella and that wasn't helping my son or us as parents. Fortunately we have a really great Asperger's specialist near us and seeing him was the turning point. It's just a pity it took so many years.

Parenting a child on autism spectrum wasn't/isn't the same for me as parenting a child without. Absolutely different.

Keep a notebook. You don't need to make a detailed daily diary, but write down things somewhere that you feel have been important even if you can go back to when he was little. Having all of those things together on paper in one place can help later on if needed.

There are so many excellent resources online these days with information, but you just need to have the time to read it all and that's probably impossible for you right now.

Keep talking with school.

Let us know how your son and you are getting on there.

P.S. Also do remember that regarding other people's "opinions" like the mental health people or whomever... it's not about "opinions". They need to do the proper evaluations! You are his mother. They need to listen to you.
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