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Old 09-21-2009, 07:39 PM #21
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Thanks for all the infor donna. I have already had an EEG done a few months ago that came back normal (it was a sleep deprived one). But I think if i am having seizures just recently started so i dont know if it would be necessary to do one again. I have also had a CT scan which came back normal. Another thing is i dont know if my family has noticed them at all becuase they seem to happen mostly at school. Is there any other way they could diagnose it if these two wouldnt work?
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Just your complete explanation of what is going on would be a good start.
Also the fact that they seem to be happening mainly or only in schools is honestly a good start. It could be lots of things that are part of the school.

So you need to get to the neuro with this information, so he can help you get through letting the school know how to help you watch for them. And when they happen what you need to let the school know.

But I do also want you to know that lots of times its hard for schools and others to realize its really happening. So just take it as part of a I need you to know this is going on.

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Thanks again. what would they do if i were having them during school? How would they know? What would they do if i were having them?
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I would suggests talking with the people you come in contact with the most. Ask them if they ever see you 'disconnect.' My teachers would complain that I was daydreaming.

If others around you know what to watch for, they may be a big help. My wife says I get a stern grimace on my face. Other times, she says I look spacey or disconnected, like I am staring right through things.

I used to become aware of losing focus on my surroundings. I would find myself looking at things that I had no reason to look at, i.e. baby food at the grocery store, my kids are all grown.

The normal EEG will be just a shot in the dark unless you can get help in understanding any triggers. A QEEG/brain map by a specialist who understands the technology could help point in the right direction.

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If you are interested in getting a QEEG done, let me know what area you live in and I'll find a specialist for you. I am a member of a yahoo group that includes neurofeedback/QEEG specialists from around the world.



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I would suggests talking with the people you come in contact with the most. Ask them if they ever see you 'disconnect.' My teachers would complain that I was daydreaming.

If others around you know what to watch for, they may be a big help. My wife says I get a stern grimace on my face. Other times, she says I look spacey or disconnected, like I am staring right through things.

I used to become aware of losing focus on my surroundings. I would find myself looking at things that I had no reason to look at, i.e. baby food at the grocery store, my kids are all grown.

The normal EEG will be just a shot in the dark unless you can get help in understanding any triggers. A QEEG/brain map by a specialist who understands the technology could help point in the right direction.

Check out
http://www.childrenshospital.org/az/...geS1509P0.html
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hi hoc Depersonalization is common a feeling, I get alot
try to reduce the meds with your docs support!!! if you can.

I have trouble remembering, to take meds and I don,t know if it was yesterday or this morning if you know what I mean . but I have developed a work around of shaving half my face then taking my meds then shaving the other half ergo if I haven't shaved I haven't taken my pills , now I am not suggesting you take up shaving my dear , but these qirky little work rounds can and do help . I have not yet found I have a half shaved face then I guess? I would have a problem
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What do they do during a QEEG? Im not sure if i am having them or not I havent been back to the doctor since i found out about simple partial seizures so Ill have to ask next time I go in. They may just want to put me on some medicine or something but Im not really sure. What do they do during a QEEG?
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Simply put, A QEEG is a completely non invasive procedure that measures your brainwave activity. It is very similar to getting an EEG done, but more detailed. Essentially, you put on a cap that contains around 50 electrodes. The person administering the QEEG will record a baseline and then ask you to perform some simple tasks such as reading, math calculations and meditating. The QEEG records your brainwave activity during these activities. The whole process takes about an hour.

When finished, the administrator will then process the information. Your brain wave activity will be measured for frequency domination, frequency deficiencies, coherence and phase. The last two are basically measuring how well the different areas of your brain are communicating.

The QEEG is probably one of the most sensitive brain scans you can get, which is often required for brain injuries. BTW, two other brain scans you can get that are as sensitive as the QEEG are the SPECT scan and fMRI.

The main reason why people get QEEG's done is because they are going to undertake some form of neurofeedback therapy. In this case, the QEEG is used as a guideline and road map for the therapist. It is also sometimes used in legal matters, but not often.

It's a 50/50 shot to get your insurance company to pay for it, and the average test costs around $800. Because of that, if you aren't planning on doing anything with it, i.e. therapy or for legal matters, I wouldn't recommend doing it.

More information on it can be found here: http://www.qeeg.com/qeegfact.html


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Thanks so much for all the info. I dont know if I would need therapy or not but ill ask about it next time i go to the doctor. I have a neuro psych test on the 29 and then ill go back after that. Ill ask about it thansk for all the help.
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There is also a more clinical form of QEEG. They use a cap with 18 to 26 electrodes. More than that is rarely used except in research. A normal EEG is 14 electrodes.

They have you perform a few functions and watch a TV monitor with timed visual stimulation. Head phones will have timed auditory stimulation. There will be eyes opened and eyes closed segments. This information is then compared to a database of research subjects. There are a number of databases used. New York University has one, Robert Thatcher has one. Lexicor has one. There is another one that is commonly licensed to neurotherapists. I do not remember it name. Many focus on ADD/ADHD with a smaller application to PCS/MTBI.

This would be more completely called an QEEG/VEP/AEP. Quantified Electro Encephalo Gragh / Visual Evoked Potentials / Auditory Evoked Potentials

It measures the processing of the stimuli from the visual or auditory stimulus.

The QEEG/AEP/VEP is a great diagnostic tool except is had been given a bad reputation by a report in a Neurology Journal some years back.

It can help find the malfunctions, especially the parts of the brain effected.

Since its use is very loosely regulated, one should do some research into the practitioner. BCIA credentials are helpful. The oversight of an M.D, is best.

It greatest value for me was to have a M.D. tell me what my brain was doing without knowing my personal symptoms. I finally knew I was not crazy. His diagnosis fit with the neuro-psych assessment I had had, except, he could tell that my symptoms were organic and not psychological.

Neuro-psych assessments can tend to point toward psychological causation. It depends on the biases of the examiner. Since they are usually neuro-psych Ph.D.s or Psych.D.s this problem is common.
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