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I have been worried about ya.

You are getting some good advice above.

Sorry you're still struggling with these things.

It's time to be reevaluated. That's just part of being injured/not healthy for whatever reason. You probably are not going to be happy about the results.

Your new concerns can be related to PCS or it may be unrelated. but either way, a combination of or a result of or something else doesn't matter. I don't think you can escape the necessary medical attention any longer.

You're very stong-willed, which is a good thing. Use it wisely. Put your health first.

I like to look 5 years ahead for a short-term plan/goal and then see 10 years down the road as more of a goal. Where will you be soccer14?

Chances are, your coach already knows something's not right too. Your eyes would tell the tale too. dilated pupils, constricted pupils. You may be exhibiting a dazed looked or gaze and you're the only that don't know that. You could have a cold, clamy look, sweaty...

You blood pressure needs to be monitored for sure.

It sounds like you're experiencing episodes of syncope, for whatever reason, and in addition to all the PCS symptoms you're still dealing with.

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/811669-overview -

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...S338&q=syncope

Take care.

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hey thanks this sounds like it could be happening. its hard to tell though because i cant really keep track of all the symptoms i experience during the day because there are so many.

do you think you could explain what an episode might feel like? or what i posted that made you think i was having these episodes? thanks that would help.
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My concern is not about how well you can play. We all have moments of high function compared to our normal symptoms. My concern is the risk you put yourself in.

I wonder if you have an adrenal system malfunctioning. When it finally kicks into gear, your head could be clearing up enough for you to feel great. This also could relate to your other intermittent symptoms.

Do you ever have times where you get REAL frustrated, either at a person or study struggle? Do you have times where you think you want to strangle someone for their comment or action?

Do you have times when you just can't sit still? Or have a leg that twitches? Or you have racing thoughts?

Do you have times when you say to yourself, "I just don't care"? Or you have a hard time getting motivated to do what you know you need to do?

These are all symptoms of your brain not functioning properly. They can come and go due to a myriad of reasons, blood sugar levels, stress, sleep, allergens, immune responses, hormone imbalances, etc. These are all symptoms that should be journaled with the circumstances before these symptoms appeared.

Then, you need to present them to a doctor who understands PCS.
mark now that you mention this yes i have these feelings all the time! in fact just today at practice i all of a sudden changed moods and during a drill someone just knocked the ball playfully out of my hand and i actually hit them because of it. i just couldnt help it.

and then we were going through plays and i was just thinking i dont give a s*** about this at all. which is unusual because i normally concentrate very hard while we do plays because if i dont i just forget them.

yesterday all day i couldnt sit still or concentrate in any of my classes i was moving constantly and felt like i had to get up and move around or i was literally lose my mind. i hate that feeling.

and yes my thoughts race a lot. from one thing to another all the time. im pretty sure my friends think i have ADD because of it. i just cant help it and its not very good for homework either.

well because of all this now what?
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I'm sure you think we are worry warts & fuddy duddy's

But we have been there and done that - and are paying the price of head injuries or previous head injuries.

Please see an expert chiropractor that will do a full evaluation of your spine & body posture.
An upper cervical/Nucca trained DC that specializes in PCS/TBI injuries would really be good.

I went off my horse at age 15 and the repercussions of it showed up 25 yrs later, plus 15 yrs of repetitive work added to that.

My fall was only a minor concussion, but age & work, life took a toll.

We are all just trying to make sure you are fully healthy and recovered before you return to sports.

explore this website to learn more-
http://www.upcspine.com/self.htm

here is one Drs website that has highlighted portions that explain more about it - but you can find many more by doing a simple search on upper cervical.
http://www.necksecret.com/The_Atlas_Vertebra.html

Image showing what part of the body is affected by spinal column -
http://www.omealyspineandposture.com...ctic_small.jpg
might have to hit CTRL+ to make it larger
hey thanks i looked at the websites and i do have some of those symptoms mostly in the first one. its hard to tell though because i think a lot of them are related to the concussions.

then again they do think i messed up my neck when i got it because first i dove for it and hit my head then somebody landed on my head so that definitely could have done something to it. i went to a chiropractor but it didnt help at all so i stopped going to see him.

he gave me some exercises to help my posture but then didnt do anthing either my back muscles are just too tight for them to help. since i have some of those symptoms what does that mean? what should i do about them? how could they affect everything?
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hey thanks this sounds like it could be happening. its hard to tell though because i cant really keep track of all the symptoms i experience during the day because there are so many.

do you think you could explain what an episode might feel like? or what i posted that made you think i was having these episodes? thanks that would help.
It is a medical term that is used when a patient has an episode of "loss of time" or "zoning out" or "nonresponsive" or "a blank space in your day" or "mini strokes" or better medically described as "TIA" (transit ischemia attacks." But the patient is awake and functioning. It is a brain related thing. many causes.

You would not feel the earth shake with this. You just kind'a know that wasn't right. You may think "what happened?" or "what?" or "What did you say?" or "What was I doing" or "How long was I out for?"

http://www.healthblurbs.com/concussi...st-concussion/

physically, you just feel like you were out for a second and nobody but you knows.

http://www.google.com/search?source=...-p2g8&oq=trans

There's lots of info on this.

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It is a medical term that is used when a patient has an episode of "loss of time" or "zoning out" or "nonresponsive" or "a black space in your day" or "mini strokes" or better medically described as "TIA" (transit ischemia attacks." But the patient is awake and functioning. It is a brain related thing. many causes.

You would not feel the earth shake with this. You just kind'a know that wasn't right. You may think "what happened?" or "what?" or "What did you say?" or "What was I doing" or "How long was I out for?"

http://www.healthblurbs.com/concussi...st-concussion/

physically, you just feel like you were out for a second and nobody but you knows.

http://www.google.com/search?source=...-p2g8&oq=trans

There's lots of info on this.

Keep in touch soccer14
i read that first article and its seems to me like most of those symptoms are definitely what im feeling. is there any way to tell when these things could happen do they follow a pattern at all? what would happen if i was getting this?
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I think chiropractors are just like Drs, PTs & any service person.. there are really good one s and there are not so good ones.

Mine does other treatments beside adjustments - for my tight muscles, the trigger points & any muscles spasms I may have.
Like a DC & PT rolled in to one.
He uses ultrasound, manual TrP work, low level laser{aka cold laser}, Inferential electric stimulation {IF stim}.

There are DCs out there than can & will do all of this , but finding a good one will take time, calling around and asking if multiple modalities are used for treatment might be a good way to find one.

Same goes for finding an advanced PT person , there are some that take advanced classes & spine care, calling and asking about PTs w/advanced training would be how to find one.

The tight & possibly spasmed back muscles need to be addressed - that could be a part of your problem also.

I don't have much faith in any Dc or MD or PT that sees very tight muscles and doesn't treat or at least refer patient to further care & tx for those.

A big circle of effects - muscle spasms can keep pulling the various vertebra out of alignment, poor alignment can affect the vertebra and around it goes.
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i read that first article and its seems to me like most of those symptoms are definitely what im feeling. is there any way to tell when these things could happen do they follow a pattern at all? what would happen if i was getting this?

You'll more than likely fall down and go boom!!!!!!!!!

Don't know where or when, but "NORMAL" don't feel that way, OK?

The etiology/cause is for a doctor to investigate, and I do mean INESTIGATE, so this "NEW" or a "WORSENING" condition can be properly diagnosed and a plan for you to get fixed ---- Highly probable they can fix it at this stage. Could be as simple as taking a Bayer aspirin a day. dahhhh!!!!! could be a side effect from a drug/vitamin/herb you're taking.

There are many things that can be done depending on why these episodes are happening to a VERY young person.

They can medicate/treat/cut/repair/laser/inject/stent/replace/untrasound/doppler/angio/nuck/radiate/eradicate/sonogram/somanytests and procedures can be done, if necessary, to hopefully find the true cause, and it can be a combination of something too.

Don't put it off. Things can get worse for a number of reasons.

You've proved your point, OK? U get the TOUGHMAN'S prize. I really mean that. You are tough. You'll need that in life, to get through life. I'm vey proud of your spirit.

U NEED MEDICAL ATTENTION!!!!!!
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one game i was playing in i hadnt been doing well at all you know just working to stand up but i didnt want to say anything so i kept playing.

about half way through the 3 quarter all of a sudden it was like my head totally cleared and i felt the most calm i ever had in my life. i went on to score 15 points in the 4 quarter and felt great for about an hour after the game.
The same exact thing happened to me. Very weird.
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You'll more than likely fall down and go boom!!!!!!!!!

Don't know where or when, but "NORMAL" don't feel that way, OK?

The etiology/cause is for a doctor to investigate, and I do mean INESTIGATE, so this "NEW" or a "WORSENING" condition can be properly diagnosed and a plan for you to get fixed ---- Highly probable they can fix it at this stage. Could be as simple as taking a Bayer aspirin a day. dahhhh!!!!! could be a side effect from a drug/vitamin/herb you're taking.

There are many things that can be done depending on why these episodes are happening to a VERY young person.

They can medicate/treat/cut/repair/laser/inject/stent/replace/untrasound/doppler/angio/nuck/radiate/eradicate/sonogram/somanytests and procedures can be done, if necessary, to hopefully find the true cause, and it can be a combination of something too.

Don't put it off. Things can get worse for a number of reasons.

You've proved your point, OK? U get the TOUGHMAN'S prize. I really mean that. You are tough. You'll need that in life, to get through life. I'm vey proud of your spirit.

U NEED MEDICAL ATTENTION!!!!!!
well want back to the doctor on trainers request it was totally pointless. i still get to finish the basketball season i just have to keep a symptom log or something i dont know its dumb anyway.
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Hi Soccer14

I have been worried about ya.

You are getting some good advice above.

Sorry you're still struggling with these things.

It's time to be reevaluated. That's just part of being injured/not healthy for whatever reason. You probably are not going to be happy about the results.

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You're very stong-willed, which is a good thing. Use it wisely. Put your health first.

I like to look 5 years ahead for a short-term plan/goal and then see 10 years down the road as more of a goal. Where will you be soccer14?

Chances are, your coach already knows something's not right too. Your eyes would tell the tale too. dilated pupils, constricted pupils. You may be exhibiting a dazed looked or gaze and you're the only that don't know that. You could have a cold, clamy look, sweaty...

You blood pressure needs to be monitored for sure.

It sounds like you're experiencing episodes of syncope, for whatever reason, and in addition to all the PCS symptoms you're still dealing with.

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/811669-overview -

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...S338&q=syncope

Take care.

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hey i was thinking about the syncope thing and one more thing i think that would really help me know if im getting it is can it be brought on more by over-stimulation or physical exertion. i do just get it randomly sometimes but it seems to happen more in an overwhelming environment or at basketball practice.

just though of this today cause i was getting them at a basketball game. it would help if you knew thanks.
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