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(Broken Wings) 02-13-2010 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soccer14 (Post 621275)
hey i was thinking about the syncope thing and one more thing i think that would really help me know if im getting it is can it be brought on more by over-stimulation or physical exertion. i do just get it randomly sometimes but it seems to happen more in an overwhelming environment or at basketball practice.

just though of this today cause i was getting them at a basketball game. it would help if you knew thanks. :)



Because that's when you're saying you're experiencing this episode, for you it definitely is brought on by by "over-stimulation or physical exertion," unless you like "zone out" at the dinner table too sometimes. do you?

Another component here could be anxiety/panic attacks.

(scroll down "panic attack symptoms")

http://www.panic-anxiety.com/panic-a...toms/#symptoms

Panic attacks can shake your tree.

If you've never been around someone with a mild to severe panic attack you would not recognize your symptoms as that. It can fool the patient. They're usually the most shocked with the diagnosis of panic attack disorder.

Just thinking for you, since the doc didn't seem to be alarmed. I hope he took blood pressure, your vitals, and blood and urine.

The quick fix for a panic attack is to breath into a small brown paper bag about 4-5 long breaths, (mouth and nose inside the bag with hands sealing around face, gives you more oxygen. There are others here that could explain that better, but just to get the gist of it.

Having "chronic" (6 months or longer) injuries/pain/conditions can cause one to develop other problems. :(

Hang in there!!!! We're here for you. :grouphug:

soccer14 02-13-2010 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (Broken Wings) (Post 621368)
Because that's when you're saying you're experiencing this episode, for you it definitely is brought on by by "over-stimulation or physical exertion," unless you like "zone out" at the dinner table too sometimes. do you?

Another component here could be anxiety/panic attacks.

(scroll down "panic attack symptoms")

http://www.panic-anxiety.com/panic-a...toms/#symptoms

Panic attacks can shake your tree.

If you've never been around someone with a mild to severe panic attack you would not recognize your symptoms as that. It can fool the patient. They're usually the most shocked with the diagnosis of panic attack disorder.

Just thinking for you, since the doc didn't seem to be alarmed. I hope he took blood pressure, your vitals, and blood and urine.

The quick fix for a panic attack is to breath into a small brown paper bag about 4-5 long breaths, (mouth and nose inside the bag with hands sealing around face, gives you more oxygen. There are others here that could explain that better, but just to get the gist of it.

Having "chronic" (6 months or longer) injuries/pain/conditions can cause one to develop other problems. :(

Hang in there!!!! We're here for you. :grouphug:

yea i do sometimes just zone out at random times for no reason its just usually under the other circumstances more.

wow maybe i am having panic attacks.:confused: some of the symptoms match up and literally as im typing this im getting really hot for no reason at all. what can usually bring on panic attacks because i get these symptoms but im almost always calm before during and after anytime i can remember this happenig? could it be they just arent very severe? because if i am having them they difinitely arent that bad.

when we went back to the neuro a long time ago they thought i was having anxiety but nobody in my family really believed her. what are some signs of anxiety why would she think this? what can cause panic attacks?

(Broken Wings) 02-13-2010 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soccer14 (Post 621388)
yea i do sometimes just zone out at random times for no reason its just usually under the other circumstances more.

wow maybe i am having panic attacks.:confused: some of the symptoms match up and literally as im typing this im getting really hot for no reason at all. what can usually bring on panic attacks because i get these symptoms but im almost always calm before during and after anytime i can remember this happenig? could it be they just arent very severe? because if i am having them they difinitely arent that bad.

when we went back to the neuro a long time ago they thought i was having anxiety but nobody in my family really believed her. what are some signs of anxiety why would she think this? what can cause panic attacks?


Yes, you probably do have some merited anxiety, due to head injury and being on the injured side of life. then untreated, and still suffering, it can lead to panic attacks.

mild is not too bad, but untreated, can interfer with life, for sure.

It's not something you can get a quick fix for. You need understanding. Here's the anxiety and OCD forum link:

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/forum50.html

You know there's caring people there, with lots of info.

Google anxiety and panic attacks. Read what you think is related to what you're wanting to know right now. Knowledge and understanding is half the battle. relaxation techniques and yoga or ti chi are things to think about.

You can have more than one problem to have to deal with, unfortunately.

Keep asking questions if you need to.

I'll look for you over on the anxiety and OCD forum for a while.

Hockey 02-13-2010 02:57 PM

You don't need a family history of anxiety to have problems with it after a TBI - you just need a TBI.

I had nerves of steel before my accident; now I get panic attacks. Fortunately, my parents didn't raise any stupid children, so I'm getting professional help for this potentially debilitating problem.

Speaking of help, if you were totally candid about your symptoms, and the powers that be are still letting you play basketball, you are in the hands of people who are shockingly incompetent and/or recklessly irresponsible.

Deep down even you know you shouldn't be on the court. Otherwise, you wouldn't continue to post here only to be showered with replies expessing sincere and unequivocal concern for your safety.

If you don't take care of yourself and get some serious medical help, I can all but promise that your adult years will be filled with remorse.

Get help!!!!!!!!!!!!!:hug:

soccer14 02-13-2010 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hockey (Post 621439)
You don't need a family history of anxiety to have problems with it after a TBI - you just need a TBI.

I had nerves of steel before my accident; now I get panic attacks. Fortunately, my parents didn't raise any stupid children, so I'm getting professional help for this potentially debilitating problem.

Speaking of help, if you were totally candid about your symptoms, and the powers that be are still letting you play basketball, you are in the hands of people who are shockingly incompetent and/or recklessly irresponsible.

Deep down even you know you shouldn't be on the court. Otherwise, you wouldn't continue to post here only to be showered with replies expessing sincere and unequivocal concern for your safety.

If you don't take care of yourself and get some serious medical help, I can all but promise that your adult years will be filled with remorse.

Get help!!!!!!!!!!!!!:hug:

actually the everyone is trying to help me i just refuse it. we went to the doctor yesterday and i just lied about everything. you could tell they were really surprised i was back if i was saying everything was fine. they want me to keep a symptom log now or something. i dont know. you are right htough i dont know why i keep posting here its not helping at all.

Mark in Idaho 02-13-2010 06:07 PM

soccer,

I think you visit to the doctor the other day is a BIG sign. You said you just lied about everything being OK. Why did you do that?

The recommendation of journalism your symptoms is exactly what I told you some time ago. The biggest problem with PCS is trying to deny the problems. If yiou deny and ignore the problems, you will never learn how to fix them.

Your mother needs to get involved in your recovery. maybe she needs to post onto this forum. Invite her to do it. She could be SoccersMom.

You will never get better on your own. You need her help.

Unless you start taking this more seriously, you will end up with another concussion from a very minor bump and your world will change so that you do not recognize yourself.

Your zone-out moments could be absence seizures. I have them. It will be helpful if your mother knows to watch for these. If she see you eyes going blank, she need to note it down. She should see if you respond to her voice or waving hands. If it takes a few moments to 'come out of it,' it is a symptoms that needs investigating.

You will want to drive a car soon. If you have not resolved these issues, you may be denied a license. Or worse, you may get your license and then have a serious accident. When I was sixteen, I had to put off getting my drivers license because of my 'zoning out' problems. My doctor finally cleared me about nine months later.

After my thirteenth concussion ( most were very minor bumps) at 46, I had to stop driving.

You have a long life ahead that is worth protecting.

Talk to your mom. Have her post here so she can become more involved. It may just save your life. Your lies and denial are putting you at risk.

Sorry if I sound harsh. I am just a old grandpa with vast experience with concussion. I hate to see others going through what I went through the past 40 years.

There is an old saying.

Fools refuse to learn from their own mistakes.
Smart people learn from their own mistakes.
Wise people learn from others mistakes.

You have a chance to be a wise person.

Hockey 02-13-2010 06:43 PM

It's good that you keep posting here. It's a sign that you know you need medical help and sooner or later you'll accept that.

Denial is a big symptom of a TBI. Like you, I spent months convinced that first, I was perfectly fine and then that I could just will my way through all the symptoms. While I was doing this, I was way less functional than you are. It's part of the injury.

You're lucky because you've got people here who understand what's happening to you and won't stop encouraging you to get help until you finally do. I went through the denial stage alone. I had no idea what was happening and half the time I thought I was losing my mind.

Please don't write us off as a bunch of old nags - we're just trying to spare you a lot of the agony we've already been through.

The truth will set you free.

soccer14 02-13-2010 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark in Idaho (Post 621483)
soccer,

I think you visit to the doctor the other day is a BIG sign. You said you just lied about everything being OK. Why did you do that?

The recommendation of journalism your symptoms is exactly what I told you some time ago. The biggest problem with PCS is trying to deny the problems. If yiou deny and ignore the problems, you will never learn how to fix them.

Your mother needs to get involved in your recovery. maybe she needs to post onto this forum. Invite her to do it. She could be SoccersMom.

You will never get better on your own. You need her help.

Unless you start taking this more seriously, you will end up with another concussion from a very minor bump and your world will change so that you do not recognize yourself.

Your zone-out moments could be absence seizures. I have them. It will be helpful if your mother knows to watch for these. If she see you eyes going blank, she need to note it down. She should see if you respond to her voice or waving hands. If it takes a few moments to 'come out of it,' it is a symptoms that needs investigating.

You will want to drive a car soon. If you have not resolved these issues, you may be denied a license. Or worse, you may get your license and then have a serious accident. When I was sixteen, I had to put off getting my drivers license because of my 'zoning out' problems. My doctor finally cleared me about nine months later.

After my thirteenth concussion ( most were very minor bumps) at 46, I had to stop driving.

You have a long life ahead that is worth protecting.

Talk to your mom. Have her post here so she can become more involved. It may just save your life. Your lies and denial are putting you at risk.

Sorry if I sound harsh. I am just a old grandpa with vast experience with concussion. I hate to see others going through what I went through the past 40 years.

There is an old saying.

Fools refuse to learn from their own mistakes.
Smart people learn from their own mistakes.
Wise people learn from others mistakes.

You have a chance to be a wise person.

im pretty sure ive had at least 3 more concussions since the first one. one time i woke up on my kitchen floor with a nice bump i got hit in the face at a soccer practice i was elbowed in the head at basketball recently which made everything worse oh wait no 4 now because i woke up about a week ago to discover another nice bump. i already have my license too and continue to drive.

soccer14 02-13-2010 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hockey (Post 621488)
It's good that you keep posting here. It's a sign that you know you need medical help and sooner or later you'll accept that.

Denial is a big symptom of a TBI. Like you, I spent months convinced that first, I was perfectly fine and then that I could just will my way through all the symptoms. While I was doing this, I was way less functional than you are. It's part of the injury.

You're lucky because you've got people here who understand what's happening to you and won't stop encouraging you to get help until you finally do. I went through the denial stage alone. I had no idea what was happening and half the time I thought I was losing my mind.

Please don't write us off as a bunch of old nags - we're just trying to spare you a lot of the agony we've already been through.

The truth will set you free.

im pretty sure thats why i keep posting here so that i know im not losing my mind becsue no one else knows what im going through. even my assistant basketball coach who had to quit since she had 3 concussions doesnt know all the stuff im going through. i just want someone to understand i guess. i know im not in denial i just dont want to stop playing which is stupid because i have my whole life ahead of me i just like it too much.

i just like knowing someone else understands what im going through i couldnt imagine trying to go throguh this alone. and i want to find out if my new symptoms are very severe or not thats probably the biggest reason.

soccer14 02-13-2010 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hockey (Post 621488)
It's good that you keep posting here. It's a sign that you know you need medical help and sooner or later you'll accept that.

Denial is a big symptom of a TBI. Like you, I spent months convinced that first, I was perfectly fine and then that I could just will my way through all the symptoms. While I was doing this, I was way less functional than you are. It's part of the injury.

You're lucky because you've got people here who understand what's happening to you and won't stop encouraging you to get help until you finally do. I went through the denial stage alone. I had no idea what was happening and half the time I thought I was losing my mind.

Please don't write us off as a bunch of old nags - we're just trying to spare you a lot of the agony we've already been through.

The truth will set you free.

i know why i post here now. i just need support. my best friend that got me through everything to first time was a senior and is in college now. we used to talk but not really anymore. she was the only one that really knew what i was going through and now i dont even talk to her or see her anymore. i miss her more than i could have thought possible. now that i dont talk to her i dont have anyone that understands what im dealing with so i put it all down here. im just lonely. :Sob:


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