what if i just not keep a log and tell them im better when i go back. why would i keep a log why if im not getting almost any symptoms compared to before. what if i just start keeping one if the symptoms get bad again or something. i dont know its just i already lied why not just keep lying.

While I appreciate you telling us that you were lying to your doc, this just goes back to your reasoning problem that you definitely have. Could be brain injury and it could be just you.

Your doctor asked you to keep the log for a reason. Did he look at your eyes with a light? Did he take your blood pressure? Did he speak to your parent(s) alone? When do you have a follow-up appointment? One month? If you go in with nothing, he's going to know your bain is not following medical advice and will wonder why you're not complying. They're not stupid. You're not really fooling anybody but yourself.

There are words like malingering, stoic or incomprehensible that doctors use to describe patients.

"Malingerer" - One who exaggerates or fakes their symptoms for many reasons. Docs do their own testing to determine that, kind like if you say, "Oh, Doc, my back is killing me!" The doctor drops his pen/paper/file and asks you to pick it up for him. If you bend over... quickly -- get the picture. Patient unaware of that testing.

"Stoic" - one who professes an indifference to pain or pleasure. Hides their symptoms for many reasons, and patients do that too, docs can read between the lines here too and have ways to determine that.

"Incomprehensible" - unable to adhere to sound medical advice, impossible to comprehend what the good advice is. They know that too.

Yes, they're busy and you're just another patient, but they usually know by other means rather than take a patient's word for gospel.

Doctors are used to their patients lying to them. Patients lie about a lot of things. You're not the first to try to pull the wool over your doctor's eyes. It's not a new trick to them. They take a lot of abuse from patients and waste a lot of valuable time figuring truths out by other means.

I've always found if you tell the truth, things go a lot better. You may not like it, but it'll be okay. You'll feel better about yourself too. When I make a mistake and I'm tempted to tell untruths about it, it's never as easy as if I just told the truth to begin with. We're all going to make mistakes. It's how you handle it that shows what you're made out of.

If you lie, you're already defeating the good you could receive. Never good thing to lie. Try to refrain from that in all aspects of your life. you'll be the better person when things really matter. It shows your character when it really matters too. Even when tempted to lie, stop and ask yourself, what am I going to accomplish with a lie? Is it worth it?

Just write, OK? At least a couple of times a day about your day, struggles, symptoms, difficulties, or write the improvements you say you have.

Are you afraid to write or you're just not going to do it? It's not that hard of a task to do. That's not asking too much.

I hope you're better, 100 percent. I'm not a doctor. I just don't think you are better from your brain injury. It just don't work that way, soccer14. Stop procrastinating on the log. Not too much to ask of you, either. It's your brain. It's your life. Better be safe than sorry. :hug:

I appreciate you reading and replying to us. :grouphug::grouphug: Nobody wants to see you get worse but you're asking for it by being in denial. :hug:

:Sigh: well hopefully its not another set back but i got elbowed in the head after going for a rebound in the game. i felt sick again really bad and the noise bothered my head more and i noticed more of the ice pick headaches but maybe it wont be too bad.

you knkow i wish i was one of those people you were talking about who fakes injuries but it just keeps happening. :( i know youre more prone to geting head injuries after a few concussions but still. i dont know i think i am just going to wait and see if my symptoms get worse again. i figure if i did have second impact syndrome i wouldve collapsed already so why not keep playing.

Your reasoning skills are definitely not working, child.
God bless ya!!!

When you tell the truth you don't have to remember what you said. :cool:

You're very fortunate to have good medical care. Please don't waste it. There are many of us who would love to have basic health care benefits.

Soccer,

Look up 'dementia puglistica' a.k.a. punch drunk syndrome. This is what happens to you if you get too many head injuries, especially from sports.

The good news is that if you keep playing, you won't have to worry about getting a scholarship to college because you most likely won't even be attending. Do you think you can honestly keep up with college work with a damaged brain from multiple concussions? And don't forget about the best part of college, the socializing. You're going to miss out on all of the clubs and societies and parties you could have gone to. Believe me, those things will be the last things you'll want to do if you have too many head injuries.

I hope you realize that you are insulting everyone on here every time you post that you hit your head again while playing sports. I mean, we go out of our way, and for some this requires a lot of energy, to give you sound advice and you basically throw it in the trash and keep playing. Do you even realize how many people would give their left foot to be in the position you are in? All of us wish we could go back and change what we were doing to prevent our head injuries from happening. And you are in that position. You still have time to stop playing and allow your brain to heal. Believe me, you don't want to be 40 and wishing you would have stopped playing sports when you had the chance.

But, it is your life and your brain. If you want to waste it, that is your prerogative. I guess you would be no different than the junkie on the street at this point. Both of you are choosing to destroy your brains. The junkie is doing it with drugs and you are doing it with concussions.

i know its just i thought about telling but then i dont know if they would let me play soccer. and i havent played since october and want to know what it feels like again i dont want to let my club team down again we couldnt qualify for state because we didnt have a keeper that played regularly. i dont know once basketball is over ill get some time for a break and see how it is then. i can tell already it wasnt bad because im not even having constant headaches like the other ones ive gotten.

i was thinking about that other post you put up why in the hell would someone fake an injury? especially something as serious as a concussion. what is wrong with people. do people really do that?

Well, 99% is for money/gain in some form. disability claim, social security, workers comp, insurance claims, personal addiction to drugs, drugseekers, drug dealers, individuals trying to get out of court proceedings, to gain some type of position, get out of doing things, anxiety sometimes will put a patient in this category by exaggerating symptoms(hence "anxiety"). I'm sure a doctor could add many more reasons.

On the other hand, stoic patients who don't want to whine, lose their job, keep or gain a better position in something, or sports-minded patients will not be forthcoming with their symptoms because they don't want to lose something, even to the extent that it will cause them harm by not revealing symptoms. stoic patients may be tough and able to overcome and hide their symptoms but they're still injured or sick. GET IT!!!!!

Doctors are trained to discern these things by other means, and not rely on the patient to be truthful. Most patients don't realize the impact their descriptions to a doctor makes/sounds to a doctor.

History is important, but it has to match what's going on. A good doctor knows.

Hey Soccer,

Waves is right - your TBI is preventing you from thinking rationally.

Continuing to play is also indiciative of another TBI symptom: getting in a mental rut and/or being too wedded to an idea.

We often try and do what we always did because it's something that seems comfortingly familiar in an internal world that has been turned upside down.

We can also be very rigid in our thinking. Once some of us TBI folks get a thought in our heads (I must play besketball, the garage must be painted orange by moonlight) it's hard for us to shake it. For some, this evolves into full blown Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD).

You're blessed to have help available to you - us it.

yea i was thinking about the symptom log thing if i dont do it theyll figure it out. but at the same time if i wrote down all my symptoms they would probably freak out really bad and not let me do anything. i dont like school much but if i had to sit at home all day again i would go insane i know it. and the work out equipment in the basement would be too tempting. :/ if i keep one though and dont write down any symptoms theyll wonder again.

i will take a break after basketball gets over but i dont want to sit out another season it would be too hard. we just started a new club team and i want to play well. and if i told them my suspicions of having multiple concussions theyd probably tell me i was done for good. i at least just want to play through high school.