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03-01-2010, 02:17 AM | #11 | ||
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Personally, I would be hesitant to use a multi-vitamin. They are usually based on the FDA's RDA(Recommended Daily Allowance) This standard is considered as only a recommendation and is very low. It does not have much medical science behind it.
Multi-vitamins tend to have proper dosages for the trace elements but lack enough of vitamin B's, D3, C, E, folic acid, Omega 3's, thiamine, niacin etc for a brain that needs strong nutritional help. There are a number of resources that will list more appropriate dosages. I have posted my dosages previously. I take about 24 pieces each morning. My dosages are more than would be recommended for a person without any symptoms specific to the brain.
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03-02-2010, 12:18 AM | #12 | ||
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my theory is somewhat similar to marks in that there must be a natural set of vitamins that you can take that will have the same, or an even better effect on your body. They prescribed I take anti-depressants prior to being diagnosed correctly with PCS and I did for 2-3 weeks until the only effect it was having on me was my inability to "finish" sexually.. sorry for the graphic nature but it was even MORE frustrating after 4 days of taking my neuroscience supplements I noticed a difference... after 21 days of anti-depressants I felt the same if not worse I was also clearly turning towards depression as a result of my PCS. As my symptoms got better so did my mood. The depression was obviously a direct side effect of the PCS... |
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03-02-2010, 05:07 AM | #13 | ||
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Sounds like your doctor prescribed an SSRI like Paxil/paroxetine or Prozac, etc. The "can't finish" is a miserable side effect.
I wish I could survive without my 60mg of paroxetine. I need it to function. My brain gets stuck on random thoughts, like the lines of a song, the spelling of a word, a license plate number I saw, etc. Without the paxil, these looping thoughts can last days. I can momentarily get another thought going but the dominant though will inevitably come back. Sometimes, my mind get stuck in jukebox mode. I can switch songs if I try but I will have to have something playing in my head or the original will start looping again. The doctors don't care to help me besides renewing my prescription. There is a therapist in Salt lake City who has suggested his therapy may help, but it takes six weeks or more at over $200 per week. Plus Salt Lake City is 300 miles away. Plus, I would need to wean off the Paxil which takes up to 8 weeks of misery. You are very fortunate you stopped the anti-depressant in the early stage. You stopped at just about the time when the anti-depressant starts to work. Good for you. You can buy the active ingredients in the Neuroscience stuff at any vitamin or health food store. It will save you a bunch. I'd still get the whole vitamin regimen going first for about two months. Then wean off the Neuroscience and see if you still need it. If you do, you can add the neurotransmitter ingredient back to your regimen. I was at the store today and saw all of the ingredients in the Neuroscience products on the shelf in a number of brands (without the extra vitamins)
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03-02-2010, 12:13 PM | #14 | ||
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I have not heard any talk about peoples using protein supplements as part of their nutrition regimene, which I I highly recommend and feel is essetial to proper brain function. Most whey protein products out on the market are loaded with BCAAs, taurine, and glutamine. Mark previously reported on the possible benefits of BCAAs. You can get a 2lb Body Fortress supply from Walmart for $12, and the quality of protein is very good. I take one scoop in the morning and one at night.
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03-02-2010, 07:16 PM | #15 | ||
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effexor.....
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03-02-2010, 10:56 PM | #16 | ||
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My doctor perscribed Effexor to me also for depression, he said I could not have received a concussion because I didn't get knocked out, and all my symptoms were depression related. In my opinion, Effexor is a terrible drug. The withdrawl effects are unbearable, I couldn't beleive FDA would approve a drug with such horrible withdrawl symptoms. If I went over a day without taking a dose, it gave me nasty headaches, irritability, and horrible anxiety. I then switched over to zoloft which I actually had no problems with, and would recommend to anyone who suffers depression/anxiety from PCS.
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03-03-2010, 09:53 AM | #17 | ||
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So, have you found a new doctor to replace the concussion denier? This "no concussion unless you are knocked out" belief is very old and based on old wives tales and ignorance, if that can be.
I wonder if your doctor would let you hit him in the head with a baseball bat but not knock him out? With his logic of "no concussion unless knocked out," the baseball bat would not hurt him. Julian Bailes, M.D. believes in the damaging effect of sub-concussive impacts. These are impacts that do not cause concussion symptoms but do have residual effects. Here is part of an article that talks about sub-concussive blows. http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/rese...8838451&page=3
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03-08-2010, 07:35 PM | #18 | ||
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05-18-2010, 10:34 AM | #19 | ||
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I'd really appreciate if you could share with me anything more about how the neuroscience products have helped you. Cheers! |
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05-18-2010, 07:24 PM | #20 | ||
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Heidi1996,
Welcome to NeuroTalk. What is your doctor treating you for? Do you have a concussion or other TBI? Have you read the many nutrition posts from the past few months? There are many nutritional approaches to try before getting too intense with neurotransmitter supplements. We have discussed Neuroscience extensively. My approach is to get nutrition up to par and then treat any deficiencies that still persist. Most issues can be greatly improved with this approach. Personally, I struggle to accept the undocumented claims of a person or organization that sells the tests (Pharmasan Labs) and then sells the supplements (Neuroscience Inc.). The lack of separation between the two companies creates a question. Most of the supplements can be purchased at your local vitamin store in generic varieties.
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