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02-26-2010, 05:42 PM | #1 | ||
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I had great results with Neuroscience and its supplements
I guess its on a per patient basis... |
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02-27-2010, 10:55 PM | #2 | ||
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Is there any difference between these neuroscience products and antidepressants? From what I have been reading, these neuroscience products are used to raise your seratonin levels, which is what antidepressants do, correct?
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02-28-2010, 12:59 AM | #3 | ||
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The Neuroscience products are Vitamin compounds with some neurotransmitter supplements also. They do not act on your serotonin or norepinephrine system like anti-depressants do, especially SSRI's or SNRI's. They would likely have much less in side effects.
My main concern is they may cause an improvement that will need long term use of the Neuroscience products to maintain. They are very expensive compared to other more basic nutritional programs. It is no different than the concept of using premium gas in a car that will run fine on regular. As I said, if you can resolve the problem without the expensive and specialized product, it is the logical and advisable place to start. It is much easier to learn to eat a healthy diet with some vitamins and other common supplements added than it is to be constantly ordering expensive supplements that do the same. If you were to take: BalanceD @2x2 times per day 60 for $29.00 = $2.00 per day Travacor @3 x 2 times per day 120 for $60.00 = $3.00 per day AdreCor @ 3-5X2 times per day 180 for $50.00 = $3.00 per day Your daily cost will be $8.00 plus tax and shipping. times 30 days per month and your monthly expense is $240.00 That is awful expensive for something that my body will likely convert from a sound and nutritious diet with affordable supplements. My 24 pieces of vitamins and supplements cost me about $1.00 per day. That includes glucosamine and condroitin for my joints, Vit D3, Vit E, Calcium, Niacin, Magnesium, Omega Oil, Garlic extract, Folic acid, and three times as much of the B vitamins than are included in the Neuroscience products listed above, plus a bunch of trace elements that we all need. So, do you guys see why I suggest starting with a sound and nutritious diet with supplements? But then, I need to survive on a disability check that is less than 20% of my previous income. Maybe those of you who can continue to make the mega bucks can afford $240 per month. Many of us can't.
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02-28-2010, 12:07 PM | #4 | ||
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Just an FYI about vitamins supplements. Most of the multi vitamins, such as centrum and one-a-day, you can get at your local grocery store and/or health food store are not very good. Make sure that you are getting a quality multi vitamin that requires you to take 4-5 pills to get your daily dose.
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03-01-2010, 02:17 AM | #5 | ||
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Personally, I would be hesitant to use a multi-vitamin. They are usually based on the FDA's RDA(Recommended Daily Allowance) This standard is considered as only a recommendation and is very low. It does not have much medical science behind it.
Multi-vitamins tend to have proper dosages for the trace elements but lack enough of vitamin B's, D3, C, E, folic acid, Omega 3's, thiamine, niacin etc for a brain that needs strong nutritional help. There are a number of resources that will list more appropriate dosages. I have posted my dosages previously. I take about 24 pieces each morning. My dosages are more than would be recommended for a person without any symptoms specific to the brain.
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03-19-2012, 07:59 PM | #6 | ||
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I use them and they work wonderfully for me. I use them for staying calm/anxiety and helping to reverse my bad sleep habits.
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09-08-2014, 07:28 AM | #7 | ||
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about supplements. 4-5 tablets a day is not necessary but i must admit that if you have bad supplements that the uptake is not always what it should be. In this case multiple dosages are better, equally spread during the day.
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03-02-2010, 12:18 AM | #8 | ||
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my theory is somewhat similar to marks in that there must be a natural set of vitamins that you can take that will have the same, or an even better effect on your body. They prescribed I take anti-depressants prior to being diagnosed correctly with PCS and I did for 2-3 weeks until the only effect it was having on me was my inability to "finish" sexually.. sorry for the graphic nature but it was even MORE frustrating after 4 days of taking my neuroscience supplements I noticed a difference... after 21 days of anti-depressants I felt the same if not worse I was also clearly turning towards depression as a result of my PCS. As my symptoms got better so did my mood. The depression was obviously a direct side effect of the PCS... |
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03-02-2010, 05:07 AM | #9 | ||
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Sounds like your doctor prescribed an SSRI like Paxil/paroxetine or Prozac, etc. The "can't finish" is a miserable side effect.
I wish I could survive without my 60mg of paroxetine. I need it to function. My brain gets stuck on random thoughts, like the lines of a song, the spelling of a word, a license plate number I saw, etc. Without the paxil, these looping thoughts can last days. I can momentarily get another thought going but the dominant though will inevitably come back. Sometimes, my mind get stuck in jukebox mode. I can switch songs if I try but I will have to have something playing in my head or the original will start looping again. The doctors don't care to help me besides renewing my prescription. There is a therapist in Salt lake City who has suggested his therapy may help, but it takes six weeks or more at over $200 per week. Plus Salt Lake City is 300 miles away. Plus, I would need to wean off the Paxil which takes up to 8 weeks of misery. You are very fortunate you stopped the anti-depressant in the early stage. You stopped at just about the time when the anti-depressant starts to work. Good for you. You can buy the active ingredients in the Neuroscience stuff at any vitamin or health food store. It will save you a bunch. I'd still get the whole vitamin regimen going first for about two months. Then wean off the Neuroscience and see if you still need it. If you do, you can add the neurotransmitter ingredient back to your regimen. I was at the store today and saw all of the ingredients in the Neuroscience products on the shelf in a number of brands (without the extra vitamins)
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03-02-2010, 12:13 PM | #10 | ||
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I have not heard any talk about peoples using protein supplements as part of their nutrition regimene, which I I highly recommend and feel is essetial to proper brain function. Most whey protein products out on the market are loaded with BCAAs, taurine, and glutamine. Mark previously reported on the possible benefits of BCAAs. You can get a 2lb Body Fortress supply from Walmart for $12, and the quality of protein is very good. I take one scoop in the morning and one at night.
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