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Old 03-05-2010, 07:49 PM #1
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Default Regarding Vitamin Therapy

There is some good information in a concise format in a book written by Elizabeth Vliet, M.D. called "Screaming to Be Heard."

This book is primarily about hormones in women but addresses most health concerns in women and some in men. The pages of interest are 239 to 243. They focus on the brain and memory.

This book is 628 pages and is full of information. Dr. Vliet is renowned for her understanding of women's health. Hopefully, it is available at a local library. It would be a valuable addition to any bookshelf, especially one in a family of women.

btw, I have e-mailed Dr Vliet's office inquiring if she has any information that directly addresses PCS in women and girls.
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Her web site is www.herplace.com

You can also purchase her books directly from her office.
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Question more info please?

Hi. Can you give some specific info on this topic? Are there certain vitamins we need to increase due to TBI or PCS?
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Yes, The B vitamins, B-1, (thiamine), B-2, B-3 (niacin) B-6, C, D3, E, folic acid, calcium, magnesium, Omega 3's (DHA and EPA), any other anti-oxidants, etcc. There are a few trace elements we need but I have a headache and am struggling to get my brain to work.

I read another brain injury article about these needs, last night, but do not remember the specifics.
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I take B6, B12, D, A, E, C, Niacin, Folic Acid, Ginkgo Biloba, fish oil, Rhodiola Rosea, and 1-2 scoops of Whey protein each day.

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Thumbs Up Beer contains all the important B vitamins :D

Sounds like I'm going to take up beer drinking.

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Beer contains all important B-vitamins, also vitamins A, D and E. For instance, two pints or one liter of beer covers 35% of the daily requirement of vitamin B6, 20% of the requirement of B2 and 65% of the requirement of Niacin. The same amount of beer contains about 200 mg vitamins and vitaminoid compounds which originate mainly from malt.
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I hope you were being facetious about the beer as a source of B vitamins.

Those with a brain injury need many times the RDA (Recommended Daily Allowance) of B vitamins and other vitamins. The RDA is only a minimal standard based on weak science.

Plus, alcohol is contra indicated in brain injuries. There has been some studies that suggest mild to moderate alcohol may have a beneficial effect, but getting drunk at all is definitely counter to your brain's health. So, a glass of beer or wine may have a beneficial effect.

If I remember correctly, B vitamins are often used to combat a hang-over. I am not speaking from experience because a pint of beer will give me a miserable hang-over. Tried it once, never again.

Ginkgo Biloba has been studied extensively and its effects for the brain are much less that previously promoted.
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While some beers may contain more B-vits than others, beer does not really have what you think--

This is a nutrition website that gives the content of 1 oz of beer:
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/beverages/3827/2

Doesn't look spectacular to me.

The quote in JDPhD's post comes from here:
http://bavarianbrewerytech.com/news/guess.htm

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VITAMINS - Beer contains all important B-vitamins, also vitamins A, D and E. For instance, two pints or one liter of beer covers 35% of the daily requirement of vitamin B6, 20% of the requirement of B2 and 65% of the requirement of Niacin. The same amount of beer contains about 200 mg vitamins and vitaminoid compounds which originate mainly from malt.
I really think these claims are exaggerated. Microbreweries may add more ingredients to their specific brew than is found in other beers.

Here is another viewpoint:
http://www.realbeer.com/edu/health/good-bad.php

The alcohol in beer actually diminishes the bioavailability of vitamins, and prevents their absorption:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_vitamins
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What is the general consensus on vitmains that are essential to us PCS people? I've never taken anything since my injury.

I eat salmon and cod weekly and I've read this should be sufficient for the average person's omega 3 intake. But given PCS, should I be having more?

And what about Vitamin B because to me that seems more difficult to ingest through diet?
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What is the general consensus on vitmains that are essential to us PCS people? I've never taken anything since my injury.

I eat salmon and cod weekly and I've read this should be sufficient for the average person's omega 3 intake. But given PCS, should I be having more?

And what about Vitamin B because to me that seems more difficult to ingest through diet?
Dr. Blaylock MD is a retired neurosurgeon. Early in his practice he used nutrients for some of his brain injured patients with success. He now has a website selling two types of nutrient mixtures.

I am NOT saying YOU should buy his (but you may decide to yourself). But if you look at the ingredients of these, the list gives you an idea of what may work for you. I do think these are very complete formulas but they are expensive.
http://www.newportnutritionals.com/
http://www.newportnutritionals.com/shop.html

Click on the highlighted word "ingredients" and a PDF window will appear for both items and you can then view the lists.

BTW, Krill oil is getting more attention now, as a better way to get the EFAs from fish, into the body. There are studies showing it helps with prevention of stroke, and also lowers c-reactive protein, which is a marker for inflammation. Doses are much lower than for fish oil, because the EPA and DHA in it are solubilized with phospholipids and more bioavailable. So you might consider trying it, after reading more about it.
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