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03-05-2010, 07:49 PM | #1 | ||
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There is some good information in a concise format in a book written by Elizabeth Vliet, M.D. called "Screaming to Be Heard."
This book is primarily about hormones in women but addresses most health concerns in women and some in men. The pages of interest are 239 to 243. They focus on the brain and memory. This book is 628 pages and is full of information. Dr. Vliet is renowned for her understanding of women's health. Hopefully, it is available at a local library. It would be a valuable addition to any bookshelf, especially one in a family of women. btw, I have e-mailed Dr Vliet's office inquiring if she has any information that directly addresses PCS in women and girls. ** Her web site is www.herplace.com You can also purchase her books directly from her office.
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03-06-2010, 12:07 AM | #2 | |||
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Hi. Can you give some specific info on this topic? Are there certain vitamins we need to increase due to TBI or PCS?
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03-06-2010, 10:11 AM | #3 | ||
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Yes, The B vitamins, B-1, (thiamine), B-2, B-3 (niacin) B-6, C, D3, E, folic acid, calcium, magnesium, Omega 3's (DHA and EPA), any other anti-oxidants, etcc. There are a few trace elements we need but I have a headache and am struggling to get my brain to work.
I read another brain injury article about these needs, last night, but do not remember the specifics.
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03-06-2010, 10:15 AM | #4 | ||
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I take B6, B12, D, A, E, C, Niacin, Folic Acid, Ginkgo Biloba, fish oil, Rhodiola Rosea, and 1-2 scoops of Whey protein each day. Last edited by baseball07; 03-06-2010 at 05:03 PM. |
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03-06-2010, 05:34 PM | #5 | |||
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Sounds like I'm going to take up beer drinking.
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03-06-2010, 07:38 PM | #6 | ||
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I hope you were being facetious about the beer as a source of B vitamins.
Those with a brain injury need many times the RDA (Recommended Daily Allowance) of B vitamins and other vitamins. The RDA is only a minimal standard based on weak science. Plus, alcohol is contra indicated in brain injuries. There has been some studies that suggest mild to moderate alcohol may have a beneficial effect, but getting drunk at all is definitely counter to your brain's health. So, a glass of beer or wine may have a beneficial effect. If I remember correctly, B vitamins are often used to combat a hang-over. I am not speaking from experience because a pint of beer will give me a miserable hang-over. Tried it once, never again. Ginkgo Biloba has been studied extensively and its effects for the brain are much less that previously promoted.
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03-06-2010, 07:56 PM | #7 | |||
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While some beers may contain more B-vits than others, beer does not really have what you think--
This is a nutrition website that gives the content of 1 oz of beer: http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/beverages/3827/2 Doesn't look spectacular to me. The quote in JDPhD's post comes from here: http://bavarianbrewerytech.com/news/guess.htm Quote:
Here is another viewpoint: http://www.realbeer.com/edu/health/good-bad.php The alcohol in beer actually diminishes the bioavailability of vitamins, and prevents their absorption: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_vitamins
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03-07-2010, 07:18 PM | #8 | |||
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Hi, well, not facetious, but rather jokingly, yes.
Actually, alcohol is good for the body in certain amounts, all negatives considered... Yes, beer does have B vitamins in abundance. When I was pregnant (oooo soooo long ago) I was so anemic, high iron diet, diet pills AND shots and still couldn't bring the iron up ... OB/GYN told me to drink beer. I walked around constantly while home with a beer in my hand, drinking one after another. I was never drunk (which the doctor says was because my body was using everything for nutrition) and my iron level raised. So I know, for me at least, my body will take the B vitamins and use them. I guess everything is a trade off, at least in my current life. I know that the sugar in alcohol will spike my insulin and nick my arteries setting me up for heart attack ... not to mention what the sugar/carbs will do to my fatigue etc. But, part of my fatigue might be from anemia, and if B vitamins are deficient in TBI patients, yes, I think I will try it. Besides, beer is cheaper than cognac!
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03-07-2010, 09:58 PM | #9 | |||
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Personally I do not drink at all. I realize there are some virtues of moderate use of alcohol, although with my PCS, my mind is tangled enough. I do take B vitamin supplements. I would not advise expectant mothers to imbibe...sounds like the OB/GYN was ignorant of fetal alcohol syndrome.
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03-08-2010, 01:44 AM | #10 | ||
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I doubt JD was drinking enough beer to be a fetal alcohol problem. If she did, she would not be walking around the house. She would be back and forth to the toilet. Do you know what gestational TB is? Pregnant woman Tiny Bladder.
My wife's OB would recommend that she drink a glass of wine so the baby would sleep so she could sleep. Otherwise, my wife was never getting any sleep with a kicking and gymnastics baby all the time. Late term, the kicking would start premature labor. After the kicking stopped, the labor would stop. btw, I had to go out and buy the wine because we do not drink, except a hot toddy for head colds.
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