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Old 01-26-2013, 11:49 AM #1
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Default brain just isn't the same?!

My neuro psych wants to do very expensive testing on me. ($2000+) and I have no coverage. She is hoping my LTD will pay for it because she believes it is beneficial to show what I need to work on in order to get back to work someday.

I told her I didn't think I was doing too badly cognitively because I don't seem to have the obvious memory problems that a lot of you talk about. She told me I probably was not aware of how many issues I am really having because I am not trying to accomplish anything but rest right now.

The two-three hours that it takes me to make supper should have been a clue to me! She suggested I go on Lumosity and try out their games. Wow what a frustrating, depressing wake up call! I have always been in the top 10% of all my classes and on any types of tests, etc.

I thought I was doing not too badly on the games and was grateful I was able to do them at all but when I saw my scores compared to others my own age... I wanted to cry. When I was doing the games I had actually thought... see... no problems.... I am in the bottom 25% and on speed I am actually below 14%. I sent her the results and she said it was just as she suspected.

I thought that as I got used to the games, where the keys are etc., I would get better but after a week I'm still doing really poorly. I am at about 7 months now since my accident. Will this stuff come back? I know that I was told I would have to learn a new way of thinking or a new "norm" but I thought I was doing better than I am.

Has anyone else tried Lumosity and had any success using it as a learning aid? They are doing studies with it right now with Veterans with tbi's and it will be interesting to see what the results are.

On a side good note... I started vestibular therapy this week and have not had the big increase in symptoms that they were worried about. I'm hoping to get my dizziness under control so I can start walking again.

Oh and I also have an appointment at the end of February to see a concussion specialist neurologist at a sports clinic. It's "return to play" focused but in order for her to return me to play she has to fix me a bit first right! Still no appointment date to see the neuro ophthalmologist.

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I'm a 39 year old, female, accountant. On July 2, 2012 I crashed my bike at the end of a 65KM road ride. I was fine that day but woke up the next morning to my current world.

Ongoing symptoms include: dizziness, blurred vision, light and noise sensitivities, cognitive problems, uncontrollable emotions/depression/anxiety, headaches (but they're getting better), mental and physical fatigue, difficulty communicating and sleep disturbances.

Currently seeing a fabulous Neuro Psychologist and vestibular physiotherapist and hoping to soon see a neuro ophthalmologist. I am currently doing 20 minute stationary bike rides daily, 20 minutes of meditating, 15 minutes of Lumosity and lots of resting. I have not been able to work or drive since the accident.

The things that have helped me the most since the accident are vestibular therapy, gel eye drops (for blurred vision, sensitivity and dryness), amitriptyline (10mg), and meditating. I am finally starting to see some slight improvements and am hopeful!

My brain WANTS to heal itself... I just have to let it and stop trying to get better!
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I am doing Luminosity...It shows me my progress and my weak spots.If you don't mind me asking have you seen a psychiatrist?If so what meds are you currently on?
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Symptoms: Physical: I am always cold in any season!!I cannot tolerate anything pressure on my head(sun glasses,hats)longer then a hour,Lock jaw/Displaced TMJ, Dropsey, Hands go numb, Arms go numb, back of head numb (when asleep),Muscle spasms in face & upper body,migraines, concentration headaches, dizziness, nausea, neck and back trauma (from accident), tinnitus, extreme light sensitivity, noise sensitivity, EXTREME fatigue, impaired vestibular system, balance off, Pupils NEVER equal, disrupted sleep cycles,speech problems.

Cognitive: Cognitive Behavior, Brain fog, impulsivity, speech problems, word finding problems, slowed processing speeds, impaired visual memory, impaired complex attention

Emotional: Unable to handle stress or overstimulation without getting extremely irritable or angry, easily overstimulated, MAJOR depression, major anxiety, Panic attacks

Treatment so far: Treatment for PCS,PTSD,Depression & panic,Vestibular therapy, Physical therapy, Vitamin Schedule,Walking,No Dairy, No eggs, No caffeine, No artificial coloring, Sleep with 2 pillows, Very little sugars consumed, Eat healthy,No alcohol, Medications, limit stress and overstimulation.

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I am seeing a neuro psychologist not a psyciatrist. Up here its almost impossible to see a psyciatrist unless you're suicidal. I'm only on 10 mg amitriptyline and extra strength tylenol etc for pain.
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Sorry to hear that!That is a catch22!I wrote many papers on the Canadian Medical....goes to show where my mind is....still in rehab obviously lol
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I am seeing a neuro psychologist not a psyciatrist. Up here its almost impossible to see a psyciatrist unless you're suicidal. I'm only on 10 mg amitriptyline and extra strength tylenol etc for pain.
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Symptoms: Physical: I am always cold in any season!!I cannot tolerate anything pressure on my head(sun glasses,hats)longer then a hour,Lock jaw/Displaced TMJ, Dropsey, Hands go numb, Arms go numb, back of head numb (when asleep),Muscle spasms in face & upper body,migraines, concentration headaches, dizziness, nausea, neck and back trauma (from accident), tinnitus, extreme light sensitivity, noise sensitivity, EXTREME fatigue, impaired vestibular system, balance off, Pupils NEVER equal, disrupted sleep cycles,speech problems.

Cognitive: Cognitive Behavior, Brain fog, impulsivity, speech problems, word finding problems, slowed processing speeds, impaired visual memory, impaired complex attention

Emotional: Unable to handle stress or overstimulation without getting extremely irritable or angry, easily overstimulated, MAJOR depression, major anxiety, Panic attacks

Treatment so far: Treatment for PCS,PTSD,Depression & panic,Vestibular therapy, Physical therapy, Vitamin Schedule,Walking,No Dairy, No eggs, No caffeine, No artificial coloring, Sleep with 2 pillows, Very little sugars consumed, Eat healthy,No alcohol, Medications, limit stress and overstimulation.

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Default Argh, more Canadian woes

Wanted to join up to Luminosity when I read this thread.

I don't have a PC, I use an iPad only because my brain seems to handle it better. My old PC died just before Christmas.

So, none of the stuff on the site works on an iPad. It says download the app.

So I go to download the app and it says not available in Canada.

Pretty much ready to throw a hissy fit.

Sorry to hear of your woes also, CC.
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About it: October 26, 2012 I fell backward on an icy parking lot at work. I was on Workers Comp for 9 months. My PCS : everyday headaches became once in a while headaches, and neck pain became manageable. Still have occasional mild dizziness, sometimes fullness in the ears, convergence insufficiency, sequencing struggles, short term memory struggles, verbal processing delays. CT neg, MRI neg. Therapies: prism glasses, acupuncture, icing neck, resting, supplementing, Elavil 20mg at bedtime.

NEW: Completed 12 weeks of physical therapy and returned to work full time.

About me: I'm a marketing manager, a mom with a blended family and wife to a heart attack survivor. I believe my brain injury taught me more than it cost me. I'm grateful to still be me!
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The Brain trauma clinic at St Michaels hospital in Toronto has some good people, and have a brain trauma psychiatrist as part of their team. They also have an ENT who specialises in trauma (stroke, mtbi). The waiting list for the pyschiatrist is not that long. If you don't feel like there is a good team in Ottawa, why not get your GP to send you to St Michaels? I went from out of province. Good luck!
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Hi Mokey,
Thanks for the tip about Toronto! I'm actually thrilled with my neuro psychologist although a psychiatrist would be free

I'm seeing a woman in T.O. that I think used to be part of that team you are talking about. She will refer me to anyone else she thinks I need to see. Travelling, or even leaving the house, makes all my symptoms drastically worse and is not something I want to do unless I have to and not too often!

It all is getting really expensive too.

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Ongoing symptoms include: dizziness, blurred vision, light and noise sensitivities, cognitive problems, uncontrollable emotions/depression/anxiety, headaches (but they're getting better), mental and physical fatigue, difficulty communicating and sleep disturbances.

Currently seeing a fabulous Neuro Psychologist and vestibular physiotherapist and hoping to soon see a neuro ophthalmologist. I am currently doing 20 minute stationary bike rides daily, 20 minutes of meditating, 15 minutes of Lumosity and lots of resting. I have not been able to work or drive since the accident.

The things that have helped me the most since the accident are vestibular therapy, gel eye drops (for blurred vision, sensitivity and dryness), amitriptyline (10mg), and meditating. I am finally starting to see some slight improvements and am hopeful!

My brain WANTS to heal itself... I just have to let it and stop trying to get better!
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Regarding Lumosity.

The improvements one attains doing the program are not necessarily due to brain healing. Many of them are due to expanding the skills sets from previous low levels. It is like learning speed reading. You can be a competent reader but a speed reading course can develop undeveloped reading skills. Just like learning new balance skills or typing skills. Many have grossly under-developed observation skills. These exercises can cause great improvements.

It is only when the metrics are normed for age, education, etc. that they start to show improvements of skills lost due to injury.

Lumosity is just starting a research study with the VA regarding brain injury subjects.

This does not mean Lumosity is not worth the expense and effort. You may be able to develop skills that can help you work around skills that have been lost due to injury. Just be cautious you don't cause fatigue thus slowing organic recovery.
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I know what you mean' Cycle...! $$$$$

It is all of the non md visits....vestibular, optometrist, (8 pairs of glasses in one year!!) accupuncuture, neuro psych, physio, chiro, plus the cost of mistakes I attribute to brain injury....like two blackberrys in cups of coffee, mlosing expense receipts, losing glasses, etc.

It is important you know you will feel better....it is a very long horrible journey so just take it day by day. I had an awful day today...after a pretty active week where I had glimpses of the old me in action. But I need to look long term and if I do I see progress. It requires us to dig deep inside ourselves to find strength to keep on breathing. Hour by hour! So hang in there and keep a bit of hope!
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I don't pay for lumosity, but I have been using it since the new year. I don't know if it's working, as I'm feeling mostly better (as least cognitively), but I do use it to gauge my fatigue levels in the morning. I tend to do a lot better on the games after a cup of coffee.
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One concussion in 2012 from rugby. Loss consciousness and took around 5 months to recover completely.

Hit my head hard on a shelf on 12/7/14. Recovered by the end of February.

A branch fell on my hardhat at work on 10/7. Not sure if completely concussed but have been feeling "out of it". Definitely injured my upper cervical region and upper back. Out of work for the time being.

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