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10-24-2011, 04:05 PM | #1 | ||
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Question: can antidepressants be useful in helping with recovery from PCS symptoms, such as a mild headache and tinnitus? My mood is not really the issue - for the most part, I've been holding up reasonably well (other than occasional mild depressive/anxious feelings when symptoms flare up). I'm at the 5.5-month mark since my injury, and have been gradually making progress. Overall, I'm now around 7.2/10, and had a couple of good 7.3/10 days last week. My headache has gradually lessened, my sleep has improved, the setbacks have fallen off considerably, and my bounceback time from symptom flareups is better.
However, I still have some remaining issues, mainly to do with exertion: - Mild headache - it mostly doesn't bother me at rest and is typically around 2/10 in severity, but it still tends to flare up from overexertion - for example, from walking for more than 20 mins, traveling to appointments or overdoing it cognitively - Tinnitus (relatively mild and tolerable at rest - usually no more than 3/10 - but it can also flare up from overexertion) - Mild insomnia and tendency to oversleep (eg, waking once or twice, sometimes weird dreams, getting up around 9 am instead of my usual 7 am) - Occasional anxiety/"off" feeling/edginess (again, this is generally not an issue at rest, but can flare up from overexertion or stress) So, my questions are: might a low dose of an antidepressant (or other medication) help in reducing these symptoms and improving functionality, or at this point would it be better to hang in there without medication and allow the body/brain to heal on its own, however gradually? Any other recommendations to help build up exertion tolerance? |
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10-24-2011, 04:21 PM | #2 | ||
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I personally am on 2 diff antidepressants that i was not on prior to my PCS. One was for the depression, the other was for the headaches. Im on celexa and nortriptyline. A lot of people are taking amitriptyline (elavil) for their headaches. If you havent tried it yet, ask your neurologist if they think it would benefit you and get rid of your lingering headache.
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Suffered a TBI with PCS on April 25th 2011 from multiple blows to the head from falling, unconscious for 12 hours with no memory of event. Hit the back of my head, and above right eye. MRI and CT negative. Symptoms included constant headaches (migraine, pressure, tension, icepicks), dizziness, tinnitus, visual changes, photophobia, fatigue, "spacing out", word finding difficulties, depression, and emotional lability. Began Healing in November 2011 after starting acupuncture and Healing Touch (a nurturing energy therapy that promotes relaxation and pain relief). I went back to work in February 2012. Ive been symptom free since July 2012. Very happy, positive, energetic and working out every day, doing yoga, and living a normal life again! I also began taking Healing Touch classes in November 2011 and completed 5 Levels of Healing Touch Certificate Program that included a 1 year mentorship to become a Healing Touch International Practitioner in June 2013. I am so pleased to offer this wonderful healing therapy to my patients, friends, and clients. |
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10-24-2011, 07:18 PM | #3 | ||
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I'm curious to know how many are on either nortriptyline or amitriptyline. I tried one of them but early on ...and wouldn't take it after the 2nd day bec I thought I felt sooo much worse on it. I have since realized that it was the over exertion of going to the doctor ..the trip there and back did me in.
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10-24-2011, 08:07 PM | #4 | ||
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Those meds generally take a few weeks for their effects to take place. If you only gave it 2 days, that really isnt enough time to see if it helps or not, unless you had a severe allergic reaction, then stay away from them.
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Suffered a TBI with PCS on April 25th 2011 from multiple blows to the head from falling, unconscious for 12 hours with no memory of event. Hit the back of my head, and above right eye. MRI and CT negative. Symptoms included constant headaches (migraine, pressure, tension, icepicks), dizziness, tinnitus, visual changes, photophobia, fatigue, "spacing out", word finding difficulties, depression, and emotional lability. Began Healing in November 2011 after starting acupuncture and Healing Touch (a nurturing energy therapy that promotes relaxation and pain relief). I went back to work in February 2012. Ive been symptom free since July 2012. Very happy, positive, energetic and working out every day, doing yoga, and living a normal life again! I also began taking Healing Touch classes in November 2011 and completed 5 Levels of Healing Touch Certificate Program that included a 1 year mentorship to become a Healing Touch International Practitioner in June 2013. I am so pleased to offer this wonderful healing therapy to my patients, friends, and clients. |
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10-24-2011, 09:24 PM | #5 | ||
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greenfrog,
You are being far to analytical about your symptoms. This is likely a big part of your anxiety and depression. Recovery from a concussion is never a straight line. It is a roller coaster that almost never repeats the same track. You will notice trends with triggers, exertion, etc. but they will not always cause the same symptoms in the same ways. My signature has a Bible verse because "being still" is an important part of recovery. It does not mean you can do nothing. It means not reacting to every single event or symptom. Elavil (amitriptyline not my mispelling nantriptyline) has shown to help with the head aches. At the small dose that is prescribed (10 mgs), it will likely not have much impact on depression. An anti-anxiety med may be helpful so you can lower your stress level. Just be aware that, 1. They take up to 6 weeks to become effective. 2. They can be miserable to stop using. (I know this first hand) 3. Their effect on the brain, especially an injured brain, is not understood. Some question whether they cause long term problems, even after they have been discontinued. 4. They are risky for women who may become pregnant. I would love to not be taking an SSRI but I have tried stopping and it was not a nice experience. Some of the side effects are annoying such as sweating profusely with only minor exertion and occasional nausea. Other side effect impact others such as interfering with sexual functions, libido etc. I just had an funny but weird/disturbing event. I went back and added (nantriptyline) after Elavil in the paragraph above. I know I spelled it wrong and it was underlined with the red squigglies. When I right clicked to see if the correct spelling was suggested, the suggestion was 'pantyliner.' Somebody at Microsoft needs their head examined. I would never have thought pantyliner was in the MS spelling dictionary. There are plenty of words I use and misspell often that are not in the spelling dictionary. btw, Notice the misspelling. My brain mixed up the A and the N in the first three letters of amitriptyline that I was trying to spell anatriptyline. My brain gets so confused, I can't even misspell words the way I want. My best to you all.
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10-24-2011, 09:37 PM | #6 | ||
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interesting about the sweating profusely part with only minor exertion. Ive noticed this when i do my little workouts. I used to teach aerobics classes at full exertion and barely sweated....so odd that i sweat so much now. Must be my SSRI. Thanks for your input Mark
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Suffered a TBI with PCS on April 25th 2011 from multiple blows to the head from falling, unconscious for 12 hours with no memory of event. Hit the back of my head, and above right eye. MRI and CT negative. Symptoms included constant headaches (migraine, pressure, tension, icepicks), dizziness, tinnitus, visual changes, photophobia, fatigue, "spacing out", word finding difficulties, depression, and emotional lability. Began Healing in November 2011 after starting acupuncture and Healing Touch (a nurturing energy therapy that promotes relaxation and pain relief). I went back to work in February 2012. Ive been symptom free since July 2012. Very happy, positive, energetic and working out every day, doing yoga, and living a normal life again! I also began taking Healing Touch classes in November 2011 and completed 5 Levels of Healing Touch Certificate Program that included a 1 year mentorship to become a Healing Touch International Practitioner in June 2013. I am so pleased to offer this wonderful healing therapy to my patients, friends, and clients. |
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hehehhe-Mark-you amde me laugh with not being able to misspell the way you want! Preach it!
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10-24-2011, 09:13 PM | #8 | ||
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With in the last 5 or 6 years i had one very severe concussion and 2 more that were worse than i thought they would be based off the trauma i had. Since then i have noticed my mood swings and anger have gotten worse. I find myself depressed and i dont know what to do. I am not sure where to start as i just began researching because my symptoms are getting worse i feel where do i start?
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