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wdl6591 02-25-2012 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by penguinsfan7 (Post 855382)
By not lifting do you mean I can't do exercise bands in my basement either? I asked my concussion doctor about it and he said I should be fine because it puts a lot less pressure on the brain then weights..

I didn't really do any exercise of any real consequence for the first two months, then gradually started walking and then added push-ups, dips, crunches, etc.; but nowhere near what I had been doing before my concussion. When I first started to excercise routinely again I used bands, and then added light dumbells. The important thing is to not try to elevate your heart rate too far. Definitely don't try to work to failure. I know it's probably what your used to, but you'll really pay for it with increased severity of symptoms for longer duration. At least that's what I found out for me. I'm trying to just maintain muscle tone during my recovery, which is ongoing. If my symptons (especially headache, fatigue) are bad, I don't do it. When I do, it's never longer than 30 minutes. PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU BODY TELLS YOU AND ACT ACCORDINGLY. (Remember, your judgement might not be 100%, be cautious). Good Luck.

penguinsfan7 02-26-2012 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Klaus (Post 855235)
Hi penguinsfan!

Welcome to the forum, people understand what you're going through here better than anywhere else.

You have Post-Concussion Syndrome, and it is not uncommon at all for it to last as long as yours has, especially since yours has been fed by subsequent impacts and risky behaviour. Whilst every injury is different, there's no reason you shouldn't recover to feeling good again if you make some lifestyle changes.

The concussion which caused my PCS happened one day before yours, on March 25th 2011, also while playing sport. My recovery rate in general has been a lot slower than yours, and I did not get back to feeling like I could do all those things you talk about until much later than you did. This is probably because I have more of a concussion history than you and so my brain is slower to heal.

Yet from the sounds of things I am now 'ahead' of you in my recovery (not that it's a competition! :winky: ). I would put this down to the fact that I seem to have been lucky enough to find this forum earlier than you and to make the necessary lifestyle changes. Also because the good advice you have had from people, you seem to have often ignored (that's not a criticism, PCS often messes with people's levels of insight and makes them do risky or unwise things. Also, you obviously love your weightlifting, and it's hard to give up stuff that you love. But you have to give it up for a while or you won't get better).

So....

Rest is very important. Your brain has been injured (not all sorts of brain injury show up on an MRI - mine was clear too) and it needs a decent period of rest to recover without all the changes in blood pressure, blood flow, hormones etc that are brought on by weightlifting and other exercise, as well as the head movement that will be brought on by running or diving off diving boards. Exercise can be useful later in your recovery, but it sounds to me like you have never given it that chance to rest in the first place. You need to stop doing all that stuff until your symptoms are a lot less than they are.

This also includes cognitive rest. I stopped playing/watching computer games, action films, music videos, cinema, reading and other high stimulation mental activities, since although you may not realise it these things make your brain work very hard. I was also off work for a good few months followed by working part time at work for many months. I am only just approaching full time. I'm guessing you continued with school as normal as you don't mention this - this again shows me that I was much worse off than you for most of our recovery time since I could not have coped with this, but again, now I have less symptoms than you - because I gave my brain the chance to rest (boring, but necessary). This includes getting lots of sleep, if you can.

What you put in your body makes a big difference. Alcohol, caffiene and MSG will slow or reverse your healing. Fruit and veg high in antioxidants (google a list of antioxidant foods), fish oil, eggs and pork contain things which will help your brain to heal itself.

Stress and anxiety are bad, they flood your brain with chemicals which excite it and slow healing. In one sense you need to be more anxious, in that you need to take your condition seriously and start doing what you need to do to start healing instead of keeping on doing these risky things even when advised not to. But once you've put these changes into place, try your best to avoid anxiety. You have a plan now, you know how to get better and you're putting it in place, so you can calm down knowing that there's no reason it shouldn't work.

The reason you haven't got better so far is because of the wrong sort of lifestyle. Now that you're going to change that, there is less to be anxious about. It won't happen overnight and there are many struggles still ahead but by coming here you can get yourself on the right track. There are lots of people here who understand your struggles and who have symptoms as bad as or worse than you. So put thoughts of suicide behind you, you now know how to get better, and you have people to talk to who understand your pain.

Very best wishes and welcome again. I'm glad you found us :cool:

I kinda messed up last night. Me and my friends were hanging out and I drank like 4 beers. I woke up with a little headache this morning. Did I just screw up my recovery?

wdl6591 02-26-2012 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinsfan7 (Post 855786)
I kinda messed up last night. Me and my friends were hanging out and I drank like 4 beers. I woke up with a little headache this morning. Did I just screw up my recovery?

You don't screw up your recovery. You take responsibility for it.

If you want to recover more quickly, you'll do the things that aid in that process.
If you try to strike a balance between your former lifestyle and what your lifestyle needs to be now, it will delay your recovery. That's up to you.

It's hard to change who you are to accommodate the healing process. There are no easy answers or ways around PCS. If there were, this forum would be pretty short and sweet.

It's your body and your the one that has to deal with the PCS pain. This forum will help you by suggesting the positive advice.

It's up to you to decide if you'll take it.

penguinsfan7 02-26-2012 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wdl6591 (Post 855805)
You don't screw up your recovery. You take responsibility for it.

If you want to recover more quickly, you'll do the things that aid in that process.
If you try to strike a balance between your former lifestyle and what your lifestyle needs to be now, it will delay your recovery. That's up to you.

It's hard to change who you are to accommodate the healing process. There are no easy answers or ways around PCS. If there were, this forum would be pretty short and sweet.

It's your body and your the one that has to deal with the PCS pain. This forum will help you by suggesting the positive advice.

It's up to you to decide if you'll take it.

Believe me i understand, but do you think it will prolong my recovery? I rarely EVER drink. Like once a month and I only drank 4. I'm not saying that it is ok what i did but I am just wondering

Mark in Idaho 02-26-2012 06:16 PM

penguins,

You would be better off having one drink a day than having 4 drinks during the same period. Getting buzzed is similar to getting a kick in the head.

The common remedies for a hang-over are similar to the nutritional needs of someone with PCS.

penguinsfan7 02-26-2012 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark in Idaho (Post 855889)
penguins,

You would be better off having one drink a day than having 4 drinks during the same period. Getting buzzed is similar to getting a kick in the head.

The common remedies for a hang-over are similar to the nutritional needs of someone with PCS.

Now you guys are really freaking me out...does this mean I got another fricking concussion? Is this absolutely terrible what I did

wdl6591 02-26-2012 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinsfan7 (Post 855933)
Now you guys are really freaking me out...does this mean I got another fricking concussion? Is this absolutely terrible what I did

No, you didn't get another concussion. What Mark is saying is that alcohol has a cumulative effect. That's why you get more buzzed the more you drink.

If you are going to drink, limit the amount that you have at one time.

Keep in mind, there are few hard and fast rules here about PCS, only shared experiences from others with the same condition. Again, the advice we offer is based upon our experiences, different things effect different prople in different ways. If you do something that has a negative impact upon your recovery, you'll generally know it because your symptoms will be worse. That doesn't mean it's a permanent set-back. As I said before, take your recovery seriously and it may help with your symptom severity and your recovery time. Take care of yourself.

Jeffrey 02-26-2012 10:40 PM

Strange thing is I had four mixed drinks on a cruise ship "pub crawl" the night of my TBI- over 1.5 years ago.

Of all the nights to try such a thing. I may have messed up my recovery- but I can't be sure of how much & to what extent.

I still get headaches from stress or the slightest tap to the head. But the pain has generally moved to the roof of the mouth.

Guess we all recover differently. Could be your TBI is more serious than mine. Or less. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

Let me know if you'd like (Christian) prayer.

Also, good topic title. This is what many of us are wondering- and to what extent.

Klaus 02-28-2012 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinsfan7 (Post 855786)
I kinda messed up last night. Me and my friends were hanging out and I drank like 4 beers. I woke up with a little headache this morning. Did I just screw up my recovery?

No but it will slow it down. I didn't notice any effects of alcohol to start with but gradually it had more and more effect until I couldn't drink half a pint without a headache. It was like my brain was working out how bad this stuff was for it now.

So no, you haven't screwed up you recovery, but you have slowed it down. Alcohol is really bad for you when you have PCS and if you want to get better you shouldn't drink it, end of.

But don't freak out, what's done is done and hasn't caused a big relapse or anything so no worries :)


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