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Halfnelson 09-06-2012 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by postconcussion (Post 911957)
I think you may be doing a valsalva maneuver without realizing. This is common. Maybe your PCS has just aggravated the problem.

The person will inhale, close the glottis, and tighten the chest and abdominal muscles. This increases not only the intra-abdominal pressure to assist with colon evacuation, but it also increases intrathoracic pressure and produces the Valsalva effect.

The end result may cause the patient to experience a syncopal episode due to a decrease in cerebral blood flow and cerebral perfusion, especially if they have cardiovascular disease. While the Valsalva effect may occur during bowel movement, it may also be experienced if the breath is held while lifting heavy weights or while straining when moving heavy objects.


Also, do you take tylenol / narocotics or any meds that cause constipation? You can take a stool softner/ colace or try senna tea.
I used this when I was taking narcotics for the pain.
Happy to hear of your lack of headaches.

I don't take any meds which might cause constipation. In fact I don't take any meds at all at the moment.

I have just bought a stool softener so hopefully that helps..

I don't hold my breath when going to the bathroom so there shouldn't be a vasalva effect. However, the simple muscular contraction is enough to aggravate my symptoms quite badly i.e. as bad as a full gym workout.

Hopefully, given enough time, my symptoms will be aggravated less easily. If not, well I'm screwed.

Spiney95 09-10-2012 08:08 PM

We have different problems but I might be of some help. I have some brain related autonomic problems. I can pass out on the toilett. :eek: The neuro said that in MY case, when I strain having a BM (often) my blood pressure drops and I pass out. The paritial solution is plenty of fruit and veggie fiber and a stool softner. If the stool is hard, I strain. If I strain, I often pass out. Just a thought. Best wishes.


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