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I had previously felt an improvement in my concentration and length of time thinking prior to mental fatigue with the B12 cyanocobalamin (swallowed) whereas the under the tongue B12 mecobalamin doesn't seem to have the same effect.

My research hasn't found anything compelling regarding the ingestion by either swallowing or under the tongue. Does anyone else have a similar experience?

Maybe I have to wait a while to "load" due to the change in the type of B12?

If cyanocobalamin works for you, great.

Hi Mark, I just checked out this post that you talked about in my thread dealing with Venlafaxine. I might give this a try. Thank you!!

Does anyone have experience with the following:

R-Lipoic Acid (available in 100 & 240mg)
Ginkgo Biloba (available in 2000mg)

I had begun to look into Lipoic Acid following reading some information on a different part of this forum and wondering if it's potential benefits could relate to concussion recovery.

The same goes for ginkgo biloba which I having been looking into because of claims of improved cognitive function.

I'd like to hear from anyone who has used these supplements.

The studies do not show ginko to have a benefit. ALA may but since it is usually acquired by ingesting a proper and brain healthy diet, some of us do not see the purpose of such a supplement

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Originally Posted by Mark in Idaho (Post 945023)

*Updated regimen linked @ bottom of post.*

Here is the nutritional regimen I have followed for decades. It was prescribed for me by a doctor back in 1982. I have fallen of the wagon from time to time. Each time, my wife notices a difference and gets me back on the regimen. I have added a few things over the years.

The injured brain needs to do two things, First, it needs to cleanse itself of the toxic remnants of the injury. Second, it needs to regain strength (heal) in the damaged areas. B vitamins are the most important. I suggest:

B-12 (500 to 1000 mcgs daily)
a B-50 complex, for all the other B's so you get a good balance of B's
a high potency multi-vitamin like GNC Mega Women?Men. Centrum and One a Day are too weak.
Some extra anti-oxidants, Vit C and Vit E
D3, plenty of this, 1000 to 5000 iu's
Omega 3, 6, 9 fish oil
Calcium with magnesium

I also have added
Curcumin (pricy but worth it) 950 mgs daily This is a Turmeric extract
DHEA, 25 mgs , a hormone that helps the body balance the other hormones, If your skin gets oily try 1/2 of a 25 mgs tablet
a Costco High Energy multipack (7 pieces) in place of the multi-vitamin

I am currently trying CDC Choline to review it for the manufacturer. It appears to be helping with less foggy brain but after only three days, this could be just a coincidence. I'll post a better review of CDC Choline later.

good meat protein for the amino acids, pork is the best or for vegetarians, there is a seaweed based spirulina extract that sounds pretty good. Most vegetarians do not like to eat the seaweed directly.
a good amino acid supplement including essential fatty acid and BCAA (broken chain amino acid). Vegetarian diets are usually deficient in these so they need supplements. Spirulina is suggested as comprehensive enough.
avoid trans fats.

No caffeine, alcohol, MSG, artificial sweeteners (aspartame, Nutrasweet, Equal, Splenda, sucralose), high fructose corn sweetener, and only moderate natural sugar.

We should also avoid aluminum compounds. The most common aluminum is found in antiperspirants (aluminum chlorhydrate). They should be avoided.

My regimen based on the above costs about $1.30 to $1.50 per day including some non-brain supplements (arthritis).

I was started on the brain basics by a psychiatrist 30 years ago as a way to treat PCS depression and avoid medication. It was very effective. I am tempted to replace my paroxetine with 5-HTP or L-Tryptophan but have not been able to find any conversion factors.

The B-12 and the folic acid in the B-50 is important for repair of the myelin sheath that protects axon and dendrite fibers. The rest are for improving brain metabolism.

This regimen needs to be a long term or lifetime discipline. It take 4 to 8 weeks to see improvements.

After using the regimen for a month or so, it is good to get a blood test for the D3, B-12 and folate to make sure your blood levels are adequate. B-12 should be about 1000 pcgs/mL and folate at about 20 or higher.

There are three valuable resources for you to check out.

The YouTube "You Look Great" 6 part series

The brain line 'TBI Lost and Found'

Share these with your family and/or friends. And, try to find a TBI support group to attend with your family. They can be a great source of support and understanding.

Home made Ice pack

My recipe for a flexible/crushable ice pack is simple. One part rubbing alcohol with three parts water in a zip lock baggies. Freeze them, three is good, so you can alternate them and always have a frozen one. Ice frequently for 15 minutes on and 30 minutes off and repeat. If you get any stiffness of head ache, get the ice pack out. The upper neck easily gets inflamed cause symptoms. This should make a difference.

7/2016---- Updated regimen which appears later on this thread --post #101:

I have been taking 400 mg Vitamin B2 (neurologist advised), 120 mg Ginkgo Biloba, Ginseng 75 mg, Vitamin B6 50 mg and C0-Q10 50 mg (these all recommended by Dr Diane website. Are these ok to be taking as well as your recommended daily ones or are there any red flags with these?

P.S. Thanks for your input!

The B-2 is fine. The B-6 is in a B-50 Complex. No need to take more than the amount in the B-50 Complex. Gingko and gensing are OK but not miracle supplements like some claim. The most important is the B-12, folic acid, D-3 and Omega 3 fish oil/DHA.

Dr Diane is OK but very focused on exaggerating her qualifications. She misses many issues and is overly focused on others. IMO, she is more of a profiteer than an expert.

Just found this- seems to have good info -
Cognitive Function and Brain Health - Scientific Review on Usage, Dosage, Side Effects | Examine.com

Ginseng 75 mg seems very low to me.. it that per day?
Not sure what type you are using but there are differences between types -
[Recommended dosage, active amounts, other details
Panax Ginseng tends to be taken in doses of 200 to 400mg daily for general 'preventative' medicine, although some studies on the inclusion of Panax Ginseng in a multivitamin suggest doses as low as 40mg might be bioactive. The 400mg dose appears to confer most cognitive benefit.

These doses refer to standard 'Ginseng Extract' which is around 2-3% total Ginsenosides, and is a once daily dosage.]
Panax ginseng - Scientific Review on Usage, Dosage, Side Effects | Examine.com

I just added 5-htp to my vitamin regime. When is the best time to take this? With a meal or without? Also, if I am taking 50 mg right now but I'm going to bump up to 100 mg, should I take both pills at once or one at night one in the morning?

***Correction I made a typo, instead of glucosamine its supposed to be Glutamine, sorry.