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Old 04-16-2013, 04:50 PM #21
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Actually the recommended selenium levels are falling now.

In the past 200mcg/day was considered okay. Today is more like 100mcg to be really safe. That is up to the user however.
Excess selenium is toxic, and also implicated in some Type II
diabetes. But the latter is only so-so in studies.

When you take a multiproduct vitamin, you risk getting too much of some things. Especially the minerals. But retinol Vit A may also be involved. It depends on the formula.
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Old 04-19-2013, 12:42 PM #22
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Today I went to Costco and picked up some additional vitamins to start taking. I picked up Nature's Bounty B-12 (2500 mcg), Nature's Bounty B-100 Complex, and Kirkland D3 (5000 IU).

Currently I take 2 caplets of GNC Mega Men Sport Multi-vitamin/day along with Kirkland Omega 3 Fish Oil 1 Capsule/day. I am planning to add the vitamins I bought today into my regimen until I can afford to get the other vitamins on the list. I wanted to get the B-vitamins and the D3 and it seems those are the most important. I also have some Kirkland Vit C laying around that I'll start taking too.

I have also upped my vegetable intake GREATLY recently. I am eating raw spinach, kale, celery, cauliflower, carrots etc multiple times/day to try to get more vitamins and nutrients into my body.
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I was in a snowboarding accident on January 19, 2013. I caught an edge on my snowboard while carving down the mountain without a helmet. I smacked the back of my head hard on the ground. I was not knocked out and it took about a week for symptoms to come into full effect.

Since my accident I have been in a cycle of feeling better and then relapsing. It has happened many times. Although I think the overall trend is slowly traveling up. My symptoms included headaches, anxiety, sensitivity to light and noise, dizziness, fatigue, confusion, trouble concentrating, brain fog, loss of social interest, irritability, and mood swings.

Many symptoms have since resolved and I am left with slight dizziness, sensitivity to large crowds and busy environments, small amounts of anxiety, and brain fog off and on.

I am currently under the care of a neuropsychologist at the UPMC Sports Medicine Concussion Clinic. I am also undergoing balance/vestibular physical therapy to help with my remaining symptoms.
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Hi there,
My son is in post concussion from headbagging. It's been six months now he's gotten better but still has headaches, in the front of his head, eye's hurt every now and then, depressed, anxious and angry. He's add and really spaced out even more than before. Been to the docs a bunch of times. He couldn't sleep at nite and took melatonin, he's can't take a tums without a reaction and boy did he have a wild crap you pants reaction, during the day awake, no more of that "natural" sleep aid!

I see Mark does the vitamin route, we were at the doctors yesterday and my son was low on vitamin D, so the doc suggested D3 1000 iu's. I'll call the doc on the other vitamins suggested but is there anyway I can help him get out of this funk? He got lost running around the block? I bought one of those standard peddle exercisers but he didn't like. His attention is horrible for he spends lots of time alone. If anyone has a suggestion it would be much appreciated.

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Hi there,
My son is in post concussion from headbagging. It's been six months now he's gotten better but still has headaches, in the front of his head, eye's hurt every now and then, depressed, anxious and angry. He's add and really spaced out even more than before. Been to the docs a bunch of times. He couldn't sleep at nite and took melatonin, he's can't take a tums without a reaction and boy did he have a wild crap you pants reaction, during the day awake, no more of that "natural" sleep aid!

I see Mark does the vitamin route, we were at the doctors yesterday and my son was low on vitamin D, so the doc suggested D3 1000 iu's. I'll call the doc on the other vitamins suggested but is there anyway I can help him get out of this funk? He got lost running around the block? I bought one of those standard peddle exercisers but he didn't like. His attention is horrible for he spends lots of time alone. If anyone has a suggestion it would be much appreciated.

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Hi mom

So sorry to hear about your son. I too am suffering PCS from a snowboarding accident back in January. A lot of the symptoms your son is having I also am experiencing. I don't think my confusion is as bad but I can definitely relate to the anxiety, depression, and spacey feeling.

Luckily for you you have came to the right place. This forum is filled with experienced individuals who have great advice to offer along with tons of support.

As far as the vitamins that Mark recommends, I have just recently added some of them into my daily diet. Hopefully I will be able to add all of them soon when my budget allows it. Before I even found this thread I was taking the GNC Mega Men Sport Multi-vitamin along with fish oil. Since about a week ago I have added in 2500 mcg of B-12, a B-100 complex, and 5000 IU of D3.

In a short weeks time I have noticed some differences. Definitely the biggest and most obvious thing I've noticed is that my sleep has improved. I no longer wake up multiple times in the middle of the night and when my girlfriend gets home from work late. I am sleeping 7-8 hours straight and feel so refreshed in the morning. I also started sleeping with a sound machine (ocean waves, waterfall, etc) and I believe that in combination with the newly added vitamins has GREATLY helped my sleep.

I have also noticed that I am less groggy in the morning. I wake up and have energy. My mood has slightly improved. I am experiencing less mood swings, less irritability, and less unhappiness. My anxiety has improved, and I don't feel as depressed as I did before. All these changes are slight. I know Mark said it takes 4-8 weeks to really notice changes, so I am excited to keep heading in this direction.

If you have a subscription to Costco, I'd recommend going there to get the vitamins. That is where I went and I was very happy with the price. Like I said, I have only added a B-100 complex, B-12, and the D3 in addition to the Multi and Fish oil. I am really hoping to add in the calcium and VitE soon when I get the extra money. But I'd say the most important are the B-vitamins and the D3 along with the fish oil and Multi.

My suggestion is to give this vitamin regime a shot. It's worth a try. I know it helped me and I'm very excited to see how I feel in another month or so.

My best to you and your son on his recovery.
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I was in a snowboarding accident on January 19, 2013. I caught an edge on my snowboard while carving down the mountain without a helmet. I smacked the back of my head hard on the ground. I was not knocked out and it took about a week for symptoms to come into full effect.

Since my accident I have been in a cycle of feeling better and then relapsing. It has happened many times. Although I think the overall trend is slowly traveling up. My symptoms included headaches, anxiety, sensitivity to light and noise, dizziness, fatigue, confusion, trouble concentrating, brain fog, loss of social interest, irritability, and mood swings.

Many symptoms have since resolved and I am left with slight dizziness, sensitivity to large crowds and busy environments, small amounts of anxiety, and brain fog off and on.

I am currently under the care of a neuropsychologist at the UPMC Sports Medicine Concussion Clinic. I am also undergoing balance/vestibular physical therapy to help with my remaining symptoms.
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Hi Tpont21!

Thanks for your story, I know it's not fun having a concussion but I'm glad you feel a little better! I'll be calling my son's doc to check what dose is right for his weight and age, not sure if it matters or not. And yeh, I'm really glad there are people like you here for support! Hope to chat with you again.

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Tpont21,

2 Mega Men Sport Multi's per day is more than you need and possibly too much for your system. If you add the others in my suggested regimen, you will only need the trace compounds in the Mega Men Sport. Even the B-100 is a bit much. A B-50 Complex or 1/2 of a B-100 should do you fine. The important B is the B-12. 2500 mcgs of B-12 should be doing you good.

Momwhocares,

Please start your own thread in the discussion forums so we can discuss your son's needs.

Too much discussion in the stickies makes it confusing for some, newbies especially.
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2 Mega Men Sport Multi's per day is more than you need and possibly too much for your system. If you add the others in my suggested regimen, you will only need the trace compounds in the Mega Men Sport. Even the B-100 is a bit much. A B-50 Complex or 1/2 of a B-100 should do you fine. The important B is the B-12. 2500 mcgs of B-12 should be doing you good.

Momwhocares,

Please start your own thread in the discussion forums so we can discuss your son's needs.

Too much discussion in the stickies makes it confusing for some, newbies especially.
So maybe I should start taking only 1 Mega Men Sport per day (which is half a serving) and take 1/2 of the B-100 complex. Would that be your recommendation Mark?
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I was in a snowboarding accident on January 19, 2013. I caught an edge on my snowboard while carving down the mountain without a helmet. I smacked the back of my head hard on the ground. I was not knocked out and it took about a week for symptoms to come into full effect.

Since my accident I have been in a cycle of feeling better and then relapsing. It has happened many times. Although I think the overall trend is slowly traveling up. My symptoms included headaches, anxiety, sensitivity to light and noise, dizziness, fatigue, confusion, trouble concentrating, brain fog, loss of social interest, irritability, and mood swings.

Many symptoms have since resolved and I am left with slight dizziness, sensitivity to large crowds and busy environments, small amounts of anxiety, and brain fog off and on.

I am currently under the care of a neuropsychologist at the UPMC Sports Medicine Concussion Clinic. I am also undergoing balance/vestibular physical therapy to help with my remaining symptoms.
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It's okay to take everything at once right? I take everything in the morning bc usually I will forget later in the day.
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I was in a snowboarding accident on January 19, 2013. I caught an edge on my snowboard while carving down the mountain without a helmet. I smacked the back of my head hard on the ground. I was not knocked out and it took about a week for symptoms to come into full effect.

Since my accident I have been in a cycle of feeling better and then relapsing. It has happened many times. Although I think the overall trend is slowly traveling up. My symptoms included headaches, anxiety, sensitivity to light and noise, dizziness, fatigue, confusion, trouble concentrating, brain fog, loss of social interest, irritability, and mood swings.

Many symptoms have since resolved and I am left with slight dizziness, sensitivity to large crowds and busy environments, small amounts of anxiety, and brain fog off and on.

I am currently under the care of a neuropsychologist at the UPMC Sports Medicine Concussion Clinic. I am also undergoing balance/vestibular physical therapy to help with my remaining symptoms.
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Hi

Well I tried the regimen for a few days an after about 3 or 4 days I started to get diarrhea... Not pleasant.

Having done some research this is down to overdosing of non water soluble vitamins.

I guess I now need to work out which ones are water soluble and cut out the rest!?
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