Traumatic Brain Injury and Post Concussion Syndrome For traumatic brain injury (TBI) and post concussion syndrome (PCS).


advertisement
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-08-2013, 12:17 AM #1
CW21 CW21 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: San Diego
Posts: 43
10 yr Member
CW21 CW21 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: San Diego
Posts: 43
10 yr Member
Default Can anxiety and depression make symptoms worse?

I am 4 months in PCS and lately I have had a lot of anxiety and new symptoms. Is this normal? Can my extreme anxiety be making everything worse even to the point of imagining new symptoms?
CW21 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote

advertisement
Old 01-08-2013, 01:37 AM #2
Peter11 Peter11 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 106
10 yr Member
Peter11 Peter11 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 106
10 yr Member
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CW21 View Post
I am 4 months in PCS and lately I have had a lot of anxiety and new symptoms. Is this normal? Can my extreme anxiety be making everything worse even to the point of imagining new symptoms?
Oh mate Im in exactly the same boat atm. I had pcs symtoms for 4 momnths the only one in really left with is a headache and feeling depressed/anxious. I am also wondering if d and a are causing my headaches. I know I do have toght face muscles…and that this can be vaused from stress, a and d. I also wonder if I have TMJ.

Thoughts???

Good luck.
Peter11 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
CW21 (01-08-2013)
Old 01-08-2013, 01:38 AM #3
Mark in Idaho Mark in Idaho is offline
Legendary
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Somewhere near here
Posts: 11,417
15 yr Member
Mark in Idaho Mark in Idaho is offline
Legendary
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Somewhere near here
Posts: 11,417
15 yr Member
Default

CW21,

Anxiety is the worst thing for concussions. The toxic nature of anxiety makes all of the concussion symptoms worse.

What is the focus of your anxiety?

Is there anything you can do to reduce stressors in your life?

You also need to swear off alcohol for the near future. Research shows a tolerance for a single serving per day as tolerable for some but zero alcohol is recommended. You will likely find that you are much more prone to hang-overs. If fact, you may struggle to determine if you are having a hang-over or a return of concussion symptoms.
__________________
Mark in Idaho

"Be still and know that I am God" Psalm 46:10
Mark in Idaho is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
CW21 (01-08-2013), thedude58 (01-08-2013)
Old 01-08-2013, 08:47 AM #4
MiaVita2012's Avatar
MiaVita2012 MiaVita2012 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: N/A
Posts: 685
10 yr Member
MiaVita2012 MiaVita2012 is offline
Member
MiaVita2012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: N/A
Posts: 685
10 yr Member
Default

Peter~ I was so stressed out before I found out my diagnosis that took over a year to find out I had MTBI & PCS. My left jaw I thought it was TMD or TMJ....well after finding out what my diagnosis was.

My left jaw felt better and then went into more mental cognitive symptoms for me....since my jaw was doing better my speech has got better and balance therapy 3 days a week has helped. it also could be a trigger point. Since I had got out of school and closed my own biz doctors orders....my symptoms have all calmed down with out stress....

I still get anxiety greatly from driving mainly, mood swings etc but headaches and dementia lessened.

wish you the best
__________________
What Happened: In 2011 I was in a MVA
.


Symptoms: Physical: I am always cold in any season!!I cannot tolerate anything pressure on my head(sun glasses,hats)longer then a hour,Lock jaw/Displaced TMJ, Dropsey, Hands go numb, Arms go numb, back of head numb (when asleep),Muscle spasms in face & upper body,migraines, concentration headaches, dizziness, nausea, neck and back trauma (from accident), tinnitus, extreme light sensitivity, noise sensitivity, EXTREME fatigue, impaired vestibular system, balance off, Pupils NEVER equal, disrupted sleep cycles,speech problems.

Cognitive: Cognitive Behavior, Brain fog, impulsivity, speech problems, word finding problems, slowed processing speeds, impaired visual memory, impaired complex attention

Emotional: Unable to handle stress or overstimulation without getting extremely irritable or angry, easily overstimulated, MAJOR depression, major anxiety, Panic attacks

Treatment so far: Treatment for PCS,PTSD,Depression & panic,Vestibular therapy, Physical therapy, Vitamin Schedule,Walking,No Dairy, No eggs, No caffeine, No artificial coloring, Sleep with 2 pillows, Very little sugars consumed, Eat healthy,No alcohol, Medications, limit stress and overstimulation.

~*~Learn to treasure yourself and your Divinity. Be willing to accept yourself completely. Be yourself, be graceful, be kind, be wild, be weird ... be true to yourself~*~
MiaVita2012 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
Theta Z (01-08-2013)
Old 01-08-2013, 05:41 PM #5
Eowyn's Avatar
Eowyn Eowyn is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Sunset Coast, USA
Posts: 711
10 yr Member
Eowyn Eowyn is offline
Member
Eowyn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Sunset Coast, USA
Posts: 711
10 yr Member
Default

Depression and anxiety can exacerbate AND be exacerbated by PCS. It is pretty useless trying to figure out which is causing which. However, strengthening the brain can help both things.

Here are some natural things you can do that will strengthen the brain and help both depression/anxiety and PCS:

- Eat a whole foods (clean eating) diet high in omega-3s and tryptophan. Take 3 tbsp of ground flax seed in juice every morning for a complete daily dose of both and then whatever you eat during the day is bonus. I also switched to a vegan diet, which is optimal for getting the nutrients you need across the blood-brain barrier. Tryptophan is a precursor of serotonin in the brain (the happy chemical), and serotonin is a precursor of melatonin (the sleeping chemical).

- Be sure to stay well hydrated. Drink half your body weight in ounces of water daily (i.e. if you weigh 100lbs, drink 50 oz. of water).

- There are also hot and cold water treatments you can do to increase circulation to the brain. In the shower, alternate 3 minutes of hot water with 1 minute of cold for at least 3 cycles. The greater the temperature contrast, the greater the benefit (just be sure not to scald yourself). Don't get the very hot water on your head, but do get it on your shoulders. Cold water is okay to get on your head. Always end on cold.

- Sunlight through the skin is good for vitamin D and through the eyes is good for melatonin (sleeping at night).

- Listening to baroque music (such as Bach) can help strengthen frontal lobe function (provided it does not increase symptoms).

- Exercise (even light exercise such as walking) can reduce harmful biochemicals and release endorphins. Again, be sure you are keeping it gentle enough to avoid symptoms.

- Avoid caffeine, alcohol, tobacco, and other non-prescribed drugs.

- Avoid or strictly limit television, video games, smart phone, and computer usage.

- Get fresh air daily and take 10-20 minutes specifically to do deep diaphragmatic breathing.

- Try to have regular times for sleeping and waking.

- Connect with spiritual practice, even something as small as making a list of 3-5 things you are grateful for.

These things will strengthen the brain naturally and shouldn't interfere with any medications or treatments your doctors want to use.
__________________
mTBI and PCS after sledding accident 1-17-2011

Was experiencing:
Persistent headaches, fatigue, slowed cognitive functions, depression
Symptoms exacerbated by being in a crowd, watching TV, driving, other miscellaneous stress & sensory overload
Sciatica/piriformis syndrome with numbness & loss of reflex


Largely recovered after participating in Nedley Depression Recovery Program March 2012:

.


Eowyn Rides Again: My Journey Back from Concussion

.
Eowyn is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
CW21 (01-08-2013), Theta Z (01-08-2013)
Old 01-08-2013, 06:34 PM #6
Kristara's Avatar
Kristara Kristara is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Brooksville Florida (central)
Posts: 55
10 yr Member
Kristara Kristara is offline
Junior Member
Kristara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Brooksville Florida (central)
Posts: 55
10 yr Member
Default

anxiety makes everything worse and can bring on a wicked headache pretty quick you may want to talk to your doc about getting meds for the anxiety on an as needed basis, what symptoms are new, and why do you think you're "imagining" them?
__________________
**KRISTARA**
Let the sun shine and everything will be fine

Severe TBI with 3 bleeds, broken neck (C-2), comatose for 3 days Glasgow score of 6 from a school bus t-boning my door at 60mph in December of 2004. Extraction time took over an hour, over a week just in ICU, original expectation was permanent vegetative state.
Numerous re-injuries including being rear-ended, flipping suv, and the latest in 2011 from being slammed head first on tile floor.
Still having major issues with: anxiety, depression, memory short and long term, sleeping including insomnia and hypersomnia, severe headaches 10-15 days a month, severe neck tension and pain that can be easily agitated, comprehension, problems focusing, easily distracted, irritability, skewed judgement, constantly overwhelmed, mood swings, confusion, brain fog etc etc
Kristara is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
CW21 (01-08-2013)
Old 01-08-2013, 08:04 PM #7
Theta Z's Avatar
Theta Z Theta Z is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: GulfCoastSouth .... April 2014 rudely displanted to the cold wet windy gloomy NW coast.
Posts: 675
10 yr Member
Theta Z Theta Z is offline
Member
Theta Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: GulfCoastSouth .... April 2014 rudely displanted to the cold wet windy gloomy NW coast.
Posts: 675
10 yr Member
Default Re: "Can anxiety and depression make (tbi/pcs) symptoms worse?"

CW21,

As previously posted above, yes, indeed.

Also, as well, in the long term of recovery ... many doctors (currently out-of-touch with the most current base of knowledge, i.e. genuinely unknowledgeable about TBI/PCS/concussions) are more-than-ready to "sweep under the rug" your 'symptoms' under the diagnosis of "depression".

Rather than the docs actually addressing 'cognitive dysfunction' ... it's all too "simply easy" for them to diagnose it as "Depression".

Maintain your good post-concussion care and nutrition; educate yourself about your injury, so that you may speak knowledgeably with your doctors about your symptoms.

For example, be able to speak clearly about what your physical-malaise symptoms are ... what are your mental/cognitive dysfunctions ... what are your psychological states of being ... what the emotional reactions/responses are.

Best to you in your recovery,

Theta
__________________
_____________________________
.


50s Babyboomer; 2008 high-impact rear-ended/totalled-MVC, closed-head injury->pcs ... "Still dealing with it."
1993, Fell on black ice; first closed-head injury; life-altering. // 2014 Now dealing with Peripheral Neuropathy, tremors, shakiness, vestibular disorder, akithesia, anhedonia, yada yada, likely thanks to rx meds // 2014: uprooted to the cold wet gray NW coast, trying to find a way back home ... where it's blue sky and warm!
.

__________________________________________________ _________
Each and every day I am better and better. I affirm and give thanks that it is so. // 2014-This was still true for me last year, I truly felt this a year ago. Unfortunately it holds no meaning for me now. Odd, it was the Theta mantra for years. Change change change.
Theta Z is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
CW21 (01-08-2013)
Old 01-08-2013, 08:37 PM #8
CW21 CW21 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: San Diego
Posts: 43
10 yr Member
CW21 CW21 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: San Diego
Posts: 43
10 yr Member
Default

Thanks for the post. i tried the shower, hot and Cold method after the gym today and it worked great. Could not make the full 1 minute in the cold but i did my best.

Thank you all for the support and time. I feel much better all ready. I dont like Meds. I was prescribed Xanax for the anxiety, took it three times but quickly realized that it made sme feel VERY wierd.

I have been doing much better with meditation and positive thinking.

Also, staying off of the sypmtom internet searching is helping alot. i think i may ahve been addicted to that.
CW21 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
Eowyn (01-09-2013), Theta Z (01-08-2013)
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Supplements that help pn symptoms but make fm worse ? melon Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue 0 09-14-2011 02:44 PM
Can Rilutek make symptoms worse??? SteveS ALS 4 11-24-2006 02:35 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:57 AM.

Powered by vBulletin • Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise v2.7.1 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

NeuroTalk Forums

Helping support those with neurological and related conditions.

 

The material on this site is for informational purposes only,
and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment
provided by a qualified health care provider.


Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.