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Old 03-31-2013, 09:39 AM #11
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The visual issues you are experiencing, having trouble with things related to screen time, etc may mean you need to get your vision check by a neuro-opthomaologist.

They can test for issues related to your vision that would arise from a brain injury: blurry vision, your eyes not working together, dizziness, headaches (especially after screen time, etc).

When you see a concussion specialist, you can talk about these symptoms and ask them if you need a referral to have your eyes and your brain's taking in visual information checked out by a neuro-opth or a behavioral optho.

Hope you continue to feel better!

The best way to do this is continue to rest! Return to play should not even be considered until you are symptom free. Look around the NHL. Crosby was out for months. Listen to your brain!
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Symptoms 3 Years Post: Physical: migraines, infrequent vertigo, neck and back pain (from accident), tinnitus, visual field deficits in left eye, problematic light sensitivity, (including visual seizure activity), noise sensitivity, EXTREME fatigue, semi-frequent disrupted sleep cycles,
Cognitive: semi-frequent Brain fog after cognitive strain, limited bouts of impulsivity, unable to concentrate for more than short periods of time without fatigue, word finding problems, slowed processing speeds, impaired visual memory;
Emotional: easily overstimulated, depression, anxiety;

Treatment so far: Vestibular therapy; Physical Therapy; Vision Therapy; Vitamin Schedule; Limited caffeine; Medications; attempting to limit stress and overstimulation; Yoga; Cognitive Therapy
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Concussed Canuk,

Welcome to NeuroTalk. What you are experiencing is a normal concussion experience. How many concussions have you had previously ? How often do you suffer a 'dinger' from a hard check ?

The TV and video game problems are a sign that your brain is struggling. It sounds like your school and team are not offering any concussion information. There is NO WAY to speed up recovery. In fact, usually when one tries to speed up recovery, they end up making their recovery take much longer. The main focus for recover is QUIET REST. This means no working out, no video games, minimal TV and other screen time, minimal visual and sound stimulation.

Basically, you need to try to live a very boring life for at least a few weeks.

A few facts for you to consider for the future. Losing consciousness has little bearing on the severity of a concussion. Playing through a concussion can be extremely dangerous to the point of deadly. Even a concussion that does not manifest any symptoms beyond the first few hours needs to be treated as a dangerous concussion. A minimum time off from play is suggested at 2 weeks. Some research is suggesting this needs to be extended to 6 weeks before considering a return to play decision.

The brain is not like a bruised muscle. It can not tolerate injury upon injury.

Read the thread Vitamins. It has some good information.

Tell us more about your injury, your age, living situation, school endeavors, etc. It will help us point you to the best ways to
recover.

The ER was right. Unless you have severe symptoms, a CT or MRI will not show anything. There is nothing an ER can do to help unless you have lost muscle control on one side or the other or have vision changes, etc.


My best to you.
I have been taking B100 complex with vitamin B12 for the last 4 days. It changed my energy levels completely. I read that protiens and vitamin B12 are needed to repair the brain. How much truth is there to this? Do they fix all the problems?
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You need animal proteins to get the amino acids the brain needs to heal properly. It is not likely that everything damaged will heal completely. There is a limit to how bad the tissue injury can be and still heal. This is why some symptoms increase after a week or more. The brain cells finally give up trying to repair and are triggered to die and be absorbed.

If you eat pork, it is the best source of BCAA, Broken Chain Amino Acids, an group of essential fatty acids. Unmodified animal fats are important to neural tissue health. Vegans have been found to have less brain matter that non-vegetarians.
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You need animal proteins to get the amino acids the brain needs to heal properly. It is not likely that everything damaged will heal completely. There is a limit to how bad the tissue injury can be and still heal. This is why some symptoms increase after a week or more. The brain cells finally give up trying to repair and are triggered to die and be absorbed.

If you eat pork, it is the best source of BCAA, Broken Chain Amino Acids, an group of essential fatty acids. Unmodified animal fats are important to neural tissue health. Vegans have been found to have less brain matter that non-vegetarians.
Is there any way to get animal proteins from another source? I am a vegetarian so that causes a big problem. Do the brain cells regrow and how fast?
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I am uncertain how important animal proteins are. You have a concussion so this means you need to get plenty of quiet rest. Avoid overstimulation from TV, radio, computers and other people. Massage and reflexology are two things I found helpful, along with other things that helped me relax. When you start to feel better try a gentle walk or read. Try not to worry about your symptoms as this only makes things worse, take care of yourself and above all listen to what your body is telling you.
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If you're vegetarian you're probably getting more than enough protein from dairy and if you're eating eggs. You can make sure you're eating lots of beans and add flax seeds to your diet but the general population is getting too much protein so you're probably fine. Make sure you take your b12 supplement though.

Mouse is right, the most important thing is ovoid the tv, radio, computer, and other causes of overstimulation and you will recover just fine. It's very important to relax and not worry about getting better. You will get better it just takes time!

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Ongoing symptoms include: dizziness, blurred vision, light and noise sensitivities, cognitive problems, uncontrollable emotions/depression/anxiety, headaches (but they're getting better), mental and physical fatigue, difficulty communicating and sleep disturbances.

Currently seeing a fabulous Neuro Psychologist and vestibular physiotherapist and hoping to soon see a neuro ophthalmologist. I am currently doing 20 minute stationary bike rides daily, 20 minutes of meditating, 15 minutes of Lumosity and lots of resting. I have not been able to work or drive since the accident.

The things that have helped me the most since the accident are vestibular therapy, gel eye drops (for blurred vision, sensitivity and dryness), amitriptyline (10mg), and meditating. I am finally starting to see some slight improvements and am hopeful!

My brain WANTS to heal itself... I just have to let it and stop trying to get better!
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Mark In Idaho,

I noticed you have a lot of knowledge with concussions. i wanted to ask you a few things. I just turned 21.

I currently play football and have had many concussions. the last one I've had i was out cold for a while just laying on the field. everyone thought i was dead. My first concussion i can ever remember was in elemntary school when i smashed the back of my head while trying to sled down from a bunk bed. I couldn't see and just remember crawling into bed and falling asleep for 6 hours. I have had many other concussions in between these. There have been to many to count. Every time I get hit i black out and see stars. This happens atleast 2-4 times a game. One time I lost all balance and they carried me out of the game. Another time I was running around like a wild man without any idea what was going on or what planet i was on. But usually i can kind of shake it off and keep going. Lately I have looked up all the symptoms of long term concussion effects. I feel like i can't connect with people most of the time, and i usuallly want to be alone. I get real agitated and angry and feel like im in a dream or fog almost every day and my vision doesnt feel right alot of the time. I don't really know what im doing anymore. maybe im just making these things up in my mind? I recently had an mri done on my neck and spinal cord because of nerve issues on my left side. They found a syrinx (syringomyelia in my spinal cord) it is very small. It has to be from trauma. I also have arthritis in my neck. I just thought Id talk to you about it because no one else really understands. I have just 1 yr of football left and have to make it through.

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There is no way to predict how long concussion symptoms will last. Some suggest waiting a minimum of 6 weeks before even considering returning to play.

The ACE or SCAT sheet they gave you are of limited value. You need to be more concerned for your brain that the authors of those papers are. It is your brain. I guarantee that you have suffered previous concussions. The others just did not cause lasting symptoms. Many concussions clear of symptoms within a few hours, especially if they are one the first few concussion.

The tingling may be due to neck inflammation. Try icing the back of your neck.

Please do not be in a hurry to return to play. You only get one brain.

My best to you.
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Sounds like you should avoid any possibility of another hit to your head. I'll let Mark explain why. Take care of your brain. You are your brain and you need it to work well for the next 70 years or so!
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What happened: Legs pulled forward by a parent's hockey stick while resting at the side of the rink at a family skate....sent me straight back. I hit the back of my head (with helmet) on the ice, bounced a few times, unconscious for a few minutes. September 11, 2011. Off work since then…I work part-time at home when I can. It has been hell but slowly feeling better (when I am alone☺).

Current symptoms: Vision problems (but 20/20 in each eye alone!) – convergence insufficiency – horizontal and vertical (heterophoria), problems with tracking and saccades, peripheral vision problems, eyes see different colour tints; tinnitus 24/7 both ears; hyperacusis (noise filter gone!), labyrinthian (inner ear) concussion, vestibular dysfunction (dizzy, bedspins, need to look down when walking); partial loss of sense of smell; electric shocks through head when doing too much; headaches; emotional lability; memory blanks; difficulty concentrating. I still can’t go into busy, noisy places. Fatigue. Executive functioning was affected – multi-tasking, planning, motivation. Slight aphasia. Shooting pain up neck and limited mobility at neck. Otherwise lucky!

Current treatments: Vestibular therapy, Vision therapy, amantadine (100 mg a day), acupuncture and physiotherapy for neck, slow return to exercise, magnesium, resveratrol, omega 3 fish oils, vitamins D, B and multi. Optimism and perserverance.
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You need animal proteins to get the amino acids the brain needs to heal properly. It is not likely that everything damaged will heal completely. There is a limit to how bad the tissue injury can be and still heal. This is why some symptoms increase after a week or more. The brain cells finally give up trying to repair and are triggered to die and be absorbed.

If you eat pork, it is the best source of BCAA, Broken Chain Amino Acids, an group of essential fatty acids. Unmodified animal fats are important to neural tissue health. Vegans have been found to have less brain matter that non-vegetarians.
I have been experiencing memory problems. I cant remember what I was thinking 10 seconds ago. I used to be able to think about multiple things very fast. Does this change over time?
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I have been experiencing memory problems. I cant remember what I was thinking 10 seconds ago. I used to be able to think about multiple things very fast. Does this change over time?
I had memory problems, and they did get better after about 6 months of rest. I am still recovering, but as you can see in my signature, I've come a long way. Originally, I had cognitive problems, daily headaches, frequent migraines, severe dizziness, extreme lethargy, lack of stamina, poor balance, and light sensitivity, but since my diagnosis, I have had most of these symptoms resolve--some gradually, some more abruptly. Be patient. Take care of yourself. Don't do anything that might cause you to hit your head again! Good luck!
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I have recovered my cognitive function, and I've overcome severe vertigo through sensory integration therapy. Wellbutrin has helped me escape depression. I have recently had a few stress-related migraines, as well as headaches stemming from eye strain. I'm also dealing with tinnitus, lack of stamina, extreme light sensitivity, and eye pain. Diagnosed with 9 different vision issues: convergence insufficiency, pursuit eye movement deficit, egocentric visual midline shift, photophobia, visual information processing delays, accommodative insufficiency, saccadic eye movement deficit, lack of coordination, and central peripheral visual integration deficit.

*First concussion: October 2010. I was pregnant and got rear ended. I associated my mild PCS symptoms with baby brain and blamed my light sensitivity on allergies and dry eyes.
*Second concussion: December 2011. I hit my head on a wooden beam, saw stars but did not lose consciousness, and I had very disturbing PCS symptoms but didn't go to the doctor.
*Third concussion: August 2012. I caused a car accident as a result of PCS symptoms. Thankfully no one was injured but me. My husband confronted me, and I finally sought help and took medical leave from work. My symptoms worsened, and I developed severe vertigo.
*Fourth concussion: November 2012. I was riding in a car with a friend and we were hit head on by a driver who lost control of her car. I didn't have a big increase in PCS symptoms.
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