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Old 04-16-2013, 07:39 PM #1
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Ok everyone, I just want to share with you what happened on my visit today at Stanford. I went to see my family doctor there. I was seeing another doctor at another medical organization called PAMF in Northern California. However decided to go back to Stanford to get a second opinion.

My doctor said that I have been the worst case that he's seen so far considering my daily chronic debilaiting migraines since being hit on the head Feb 21st. He bascially went through a whole long list of different drug combinations and the ones I can try. I was given the option of noritryptalin or propolin. I voiced my concerns about taking antidepressants. So he suggested propolin in combination with Excedrin. He also even suggested narcotics such as Vicodin which I didn't want to consider. He suggested a tapering up of propolin over a month period and then when my headaches get better a tapering down. My doctor did say that I will get better with time.

I was then referred to the HeadAche Clinic at Stanford. But my doctor basically said that at the headache clinic they will just try other different drug therapies that may not be so conventional. So he wanted me to try a few drugs first while I wait for my appointment at the HeadAche Clinic.

Anyway, from what I gather from my visits to various medical doctors, it doesnt seem like theres a whole lot they can do on the healing level. It seems like they can only perscribe different drug combinations to combat the symptoms which I found very sad All of them said that I will be healed with time.

I think this forum is a great place to share experiences and information but I realized everyon'es body and healing journey is different and people responnd to different things. My own story is my own journey and my own body. But I would just like to share it with everyone.

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When someone finds a medication that will help an mTBI heal, you can expect the trumpets to sound.

Treat the individual symptoms, learn to moderate stress and get quiet rest when possible is about all that is known.
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Dear Mark,

Thank you for your support and feedback. I feel i'm still learning and going on the earlier stages of this journey. Thank you for your help. It really is comforting and giving me hope.


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Treat the individual symptoms, learn to moderate stress and get quiet rest when possible is about all that is known.
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Ok everyone, I just want to share with you what happened on my visit today at Stanford. I went to see my family doctor there. I was seeing another doctor at another medical organization called PAMF in Northern California. However decided to go back to Stanford to get a second opinion.

My doctor said that I have been the worst case that he's seen so far considering my daily chronic debilaiting migraines since being hit on the head Feb 21st. He bascially went through a whole long list of different drug combinations and the ones I can try. I was given the option of noritryptalin or propolin. I voiced my concerns about taking antidepressants. So he suggested propolin in combination with Excedrin. He also even suggested narcotics such as Vicodin which I didn't want to consider. He suggested a tapering up of propolin over a month period and then when my headaches get better a tapering down. My doctor did say that I will get better with time.

I was then referred to the HeadAche Clinic at Stanford. But my doctor basically said that at the headache clinic they will just try other different drug therapies that may not be so conventional. So he wanted me to try a few drugs first while I wait for my appointment at the HeadAche Clinic.

Anyway, from what I gather from my visits to various medical doctors, it doesnt seem like theres a whole lot they can do on the healing level. It seems like they can only perscribe different drug combinations to combat the symptoms which I found very sad All of them said that I will be healed with time.

I think this forum is a great place to share experiences and information but I realized everyon'es body and healing journey is different and people responnd to different things. My own story is my own journey and my own body. But I would just like to share it with everyone.

Thank you for your support.

Thanks for the post. My situation was very similar to yours.

I went through about 6 months of PCS before trying medication. About 3 weeks ago I was perscribed 2x10 mg of nortriptalyne at nigh and 2 x 40 mg of proponanol during the day. Ofourse at first I was sceptical of anti depressants, but I know that at this stage I was anxious and depressed and anything to calm my stress down would be good. It has been 3 weeks since then and I have gone from about 10% functioning to about 60% now and feel better each day. Ofcourse I have good days and bad but I am having alot more good days. I am even completely symtpm free at times. My doc wants me to start tapering off over the next few months which I agree with but for the time being i am seeing improvement and am happy with what Ive been prescribed.
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If you are still in the Stanford area you are really close to us. We have tried a number of doctors and I will reply with more names but PLEASE check out the integrative clinic at Stanford. My daughter has PCS for almost 2 yrs. We are now making headway but she did do the acupuncture at the integrative clinic and had huge relief for a few days at a time to her symptoms pretty much right away.I will write more tomorrow...it's a bit late right now

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Thank you!! Yes I'm in Palo Alto! I would really appreciate your help! I feel there are so many doctors out there and I feel so confused. Thank you for telling me about the integrative clnic. I will definitely look into it.

Regarding your doctor's acupuncture treatments. How often were they done? Were they done everyday?

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If you are still in the Stanford area you are really close to us. We have tried a number of doctors and I will reply with more names but PLEASE check out the integrative clinic at Stanford. My daughter has PCS for almost 2 yrs. We are now making headway but she did do the acupuncture at the integrative clinic and had huge relief for a few days at a time to her symptoms pretty much right away.I will write more tomorrow...it's a bit late right now

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Thank you for your post.

I am actually so afraid of medication and the type of person who won't even take anything for a cold where meds are the absolute last resort. So when the doctor read off all these medication names it scared me so much and made me sad. I think I have this feeling where taking medication is like a sign of failure(

But thank you for posting about your mediation experience. I think I need to take a more positive view towards meds and that meds are there to help me.

Thanks again.
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Thanks for the post. My situation was very similar to yours.

I went through about 6 months of PCS before trying medication. About 3 weeks ago I was perscribed 2x10 mg of nortriptalyne at nigh and 2 x 40 mg of proponanol during the day. Ofourse at first I was sceptical of anti depressants, but I know that at this stage I was anxious and depressed and anything to calm my stress down would be good. It has been 3 weeks since then and I have gone from about 10% functioning to about 60% now and feel better each day. Ofcourse I have good days and bad but I am having alot more good days. I am even completely symtpm free at times. My doc wants me to start tapering off over the next few months which I agree with but for the time being i am seeing improvement and am happy with what Ive been prescribed.
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I went the rounds at Stanford (I'm in San Mateo) about a year ago and heard almost the identical story. They can poke at the symptoms (I get migraines also), but there's essentially nothing they can do for the underlying causes at the current state of technology.
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I am not sure if you are Japanese (it's the hiroko part of blue hiroko), but I wanted to add that if you do medications you may want to start out with the lowest dosage possible.

I am half-Japanese and my neurologist explained that often Asian women are very sensitive to the dosage requirements (which are often calculated and metabolized differently for caucasian women).
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Post-event: Diagnosed with post-concussion syndrome, ptsd, whiplash, peripheral and central vestibular dysfunction and convergence insufficiency. MRI/CT scans fine.

Symptoms: daily headaches, dizziness/vertigo, nausea, cognitive fog, light/noise sensitivities, anxiety/irritability, fatigued, convergence insufficiency, tinnitus and numbness in arms/legs.

Therapies: Now topamax 50mg daily; Propanolol and Tramadol when migraine. Off nortryptiline and trazodone. Accupuncture. Vitamin regime. Prism glasses/vision therapy. Vestibular therapy 3month. Gluten free diet. Dairy free diet. On sick leave from teaching until Sept. 2014.
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Yes I'm Japanese. Thank you for that tip. The predisone didn't work so my neuro is starting me on nortiptalyn. I'm not sure if i'm going to take it. I've begun to see a Chiropractic Neurologist in Redwood City and yesterday was my first visit and so far feeling a bit better. Going to see how it goes.

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I am not sure if you are Japanese (it's the hiroko part of blue hiroko), but I wanted to add that if you do medications you may want to start out with the lowest dosage possible.

I am half-Japanese and my neurologist explained that often Asian women are very sensitive to the dosage requirements (which are often calculated and metabolized differently for caucasian women).
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