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Old 04-23-2013, 04:41 PM #1
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I've searched the forum for information on this but would like to hear from people who have tried it and if it has made any difference? Thank you!

I saw it mentioned in this article. Thank you.

http://www.brainline.org/content/201...-recovery.html
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When ever you see a brand name mentioned, it is best to look it up and see what the ingredients are. Some will state it openly. Others will not. Brain Vitale is just two ingredients; Phosphatidyl Serine and Acetyl-L-Carnitine.

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Phosphatidyl Serine and Acetyl-L-Carnitine
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I've searched the forum for information on this but would like to hear from people who have tried it and if it has made any difference? Thank you!

I saw it mentioned in this article. Thank you.

http://www.brainline.org/content/201...-recovery.html
Here is a link from several months back, there is a link to Brain Vitale that shows the ingredients, there are several. I actually did try it for myself for a while and didn't notice any difference. I couldn't get my sTBI son to try it.

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/sh...t=brain+vitale
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brainreference.com says

Brain Vitale includes the following ingredients: Brain Vitale includes the following ingredients: Acetyl L-Carnitine 500 mg, GlyceroPhosphoCholine (GPC) 200 mg, Inositol 200 mg, Phosphatidylserine 120 mg, GinkgoSelectTM PhytosomeTM 90 mg [Ginkgo biloba (leaves), Glycine (soybeans)], and Gelatin.


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Precautions mentioned for certain categories of patients (pregnant and lactating women, people on blood thinning medication, etc.);
Lack of evidence for the core benefit claims.

The two advertised most active ingredients are the
Phosphatidyl Serine and Acetyl-L-Carnitine
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From the two ingredients that are mentioned, i've tried acetyl l-carnitine for less than a month with good results. They are subtle at first but very consistent.
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What kind of results have you had? How many mg are you taking? Thank you.

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From the two ingredients that are mentioned, i've tried acetyl l-carnitine for less than a month with good results. They are subtle at first but very consistent.
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Self reporting subtle improvements is of little validity. The improvements can just be spontaneous healing.
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Self reporting subtle improvements is of little validity. The improvements can just be spontaneous healing.
Yes, i agree that might be the case. That's why i'm not flat out recommending it but I'm going to offer a little insight of my experience with l-carnitine and acetyl-l-carnitine:

About a month ago i started out with a 500mg dose of l-carnitine after lunch. L-carnitine is used as a body building supplements but there might be some benefits for those of us who don't lift. It cleared an almost persistent mental fog brought in part by the PCS and also by the Topomax i was prescribed. It has given me my libido back which was completely destroyed when i started taking Topomax.

However, l-carnitine may be a double edge sword. If you are prone to anxiety, you may find that it actually increases it. From what i've read elsewhere, some people might also be more prone to headaches while getting used to it, although it wasn't the case with me.


After a couple of weeks, i decided to add 500mg of acetyl-l-carnitine to my diet. Unlike l-carnitine i didn't feel anything different for the first week i took it. Acetyl-l-carnitine is different, it won't rev you up and you won't feel an instant energy boost. I believe the effects are more subtle and gradual. I'm fully aware that this might be the placebo effect at work here but i think i feel mentally sharper than i was when i started taking it.

As a side note, I've also noted that I've been getting more quality sleep time in less hours. After my concussion, i became a very sleepy person; about 9 hours every night and when i woke up i still felt very groggy and usually woke up to a headache. That has changed, now I'm sleeping from 7.5 to 8 hours and waking up refreshed and well rested. I've also been dreaming again which i think is an indicative of REM sleep phases.
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