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Old 05-07-2013, 05:52 PM #1
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Default PCS: worse in the morning

The majority of my PCS symptoms are dizziness, nausea and anxiety.

My symptoms are always worse in the morning. I used to eat the minute I got up. Now I can't eat for a few hours. I have tried walking, showers, visual therapy and stretching in the morning but I can't seem to shake the morning sickness.

I am wondering if anyone has experienced whiplash concussion and whether my symptoms are the result of more neck injury than brain injury. Is the way I sleep some how exacerbating my symptoms?
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Old 05-07-2013, 09:31 PM #2
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The majority of my PCS symptoms are dizziness, nausea and anxiety.

My symptoms are always worse in the morning. I used to eat the minute I got up. Now I can't eat for a few hours. I have tried walking, showers, visual therapy and stretching in the morning but I can't seem to shake the morning sickness.

I am wondering if anyone has experienced whiplash concussion and whether my symptoms are the result of more neck injury than brain injury. Is the way I sleep some how exacerbating my symptoms?
I completely understand. I'm nine months PCS, largely recovered. But my symptoms used to be worse in the morning, alot worse, I would get the shakes, wake up with a headache and just be in a foul mood.

Since starting to recover I have been feeling great in the morning. I put this down to the nortripltalyine I have been taking at night.

Alot of it has to do with serotonin/ and or blood sugar levels. Our serotonin levels and blood sugar are naturally lower in the morning which can contribute to some of these symptoms.
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ClayR,

Welcome to NeuroTalk. Whiplash injuries are common with concussions. The upper neck injuries can make concussion symptoms much worse. It would be worth trying sleeping straight out flat on your back with minimal pillow support. Just enough to keep your head from rolling off to the side.. You have not told us anything about yourself, your diagnosis, treatments, meds, etc. Read the Vitamins stickie at the top and check out the links listed.

Feel free to tell us anything about your struggles. There are lots of good people here.

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Yes, I got this extremely unusual diagnosis last spring.
I did not hit my head in the accidents so I thought it was all pretty weird.
It really kicked up my PTSD.

It is very disconcerting and really freaked me out.
REST was the best advice I got. anything that helps you calm down is good. Your brain needs to heal from the trauma. Anything that shakes the head severely can cause trauma to the brain (especially if its already storing previous traumas, as mine was)


Mine came at a very stressful time, so it seemed worse.
Brain state brainwave optimization helped me a lot.
Its a cutting edge technology, you can google it.

I pushed very hard and received a large insurance settlement for
the disruption this had on my life...

Remember, this too shall pass. :
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I completely understand. I'm nine months PCS, largely recovered. But my symptoms used to be worse in the morning, alot worse, I would get the shakes, wake up with a headache and just be in a foul mood.

Since starting to recover I have been feeling great in the morning. I put this down to the nortripltalyine I have been taking at night.

Alot of it has to do with serotonin/ and or blood sugar levels. Our serotonin levels and blood sugar are naturally lower in the morning which can contribute to some of these symptoms.
Thanks for the post Peter. I got the shakes in the morning for about a week but those seem to have subsided. I hear you on the sugar levels in the morning. The thing that really gets me out of bed in the morning is eating. But a lot of times I have nausea in the morning. Even though I want to eat, I can't! But I have been finding after eating that the symptoms go away. Thanks for this advice.
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For nausea in the morning, you might try some glucose tablets before getting out of bed.

These are very inexpensive now, even at WalMart, and you can keep on your night stand, grab a couple while still in bed. The concentrated sugar should block the nausea reflex and help you get up a bit better. (this is how the old coca cola syrup worked).

example:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Dex4-Wild-...ottle/15084050
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Thats interesting that yours is worse in the morning, mine is much, much worse at night
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Fell off a horse in late winter of 2009 blacked out for a couple seconds, had amnesia for 10 hours (still don't remember this time), had 2 CT scans, 2 MRI's, 1 MRA all negative. Since the first concussion I have continually knocked my head into different things purely by accident or from being stupid. These many concussions over a short period of time have caused
constant migraines, nausea, and dizziness/lack of balance.
Migraine triggers are:
light sensitivity (especially to florescent or bright lights)
sound sensitivity (especially to high pitched or loud sounds)
temperature sensitivity (especially to cold or extreme heat)
activity (especially if breathing increases or head is jostled)
pressure on head (sinuses, hats, headbands, sunglasses, pony-tails)
lacks or quality (food, sleep, water)
tension (stress, tight muscles, tired eyes, sickness)
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Default Physical therapy for your neck?

I recently had an experience that may help you. I am very weak in my upper vertebrae due to repeated whiplash injuries (and my very long neck), so I was in physical therapy to strengthen that area in order to get rid of headaches and dizziness. I also had nausea due to my neck injury at various times. I really didn't think physical therapy did much for my dizziness, because so many of my problems are due to vision-related issues, but I guess it did something, because I stopped doing my physical therapy two weeks ago and I started getting dizzy again. I thought sensory integration therapy had cured me so I was very concerned! I noticed that my dizziness was definitely worse when I first got out of bed. I remember this was often the case after my dizziness first began months and months ago.

I called my vestibular physical therapist since it was a dizziness issue, and she said that that likely was the cause of my dizziness and that I would need to do these exercises for the rest of my life to keep my upper vertebrae strong in order to keep dizziness and headaches at bay.

I started doing exercises again and almost immediately noticed a difference. It's lame that I will have to do these exercises for the rest of my life, but I guess that'll keep me stronger and healthier. I'm just glad that I didn't do anything to reverse the progress of my vision therapy!

You might want to go to a physical therapist to help strengthen your upper vertebrae, if they determined that is an issue for you. If it is your neck, you should try to make sure it's more supported when you sleep at night, as that might be the cause of you feeling worse in the morning. You might want to try putting a towel roll under your neck and sleeping on your back. Good luck!
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*First concussion: October 2010. I was pregnant and got rear ended. I associated my mild PCS symptoms with baby brain and blamed my light sensitivity on allergies and dry eyes.
*Second concussion: December 2011. I hit my head on a wooden beam, saw stars but did not lose consciousness, and I had very disturbing PCS symptoms but didn't go to the doctor.
*Third concussion: August 2012. I caused a car accident as a result of PCS symptoms. Thankfully no one was injured but me. My husband confronted me, and I finally sought help and took medical leave from work. My symptoms worsened, and I developed severe vertigo.
*Fourth concussion: November 2012. I was riding in a car with a friend and we were hit head on by a driver who lost control of her car. I didn't have a big increase in PCS symptoms.
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Default I Can Relate

I can relate my sickness was at it's worst in the morning as well.I could not get a diagnosis for over a year of TBI/PCS so I was trying anything I could. I found ginger root worked best for me.I had it so bad that I was on birth control at the time but felt pregnant but never was.Down my long road of searching for a diagnosis it all made sense when I got diagnosis and put the puzzle together.If I were you I would give ginger root a try to see if it helps until you get medication.
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Symptoms: Physical: I am always cold in any season!!I cannot tolerate anything pressure on my head(sun glasses,hats)longer then a hour,Lock jaw/Displaced TMJ, Dropsey, Hands go numb, Arms go numb, back of head numb (when asleep),Muscle spasms in face & upper body,migraines, concentration headaches, dizziness, nausea, neck and back trauma (from accident), tinnitus, extreme light sensitivity, noise sensitivity, EXTREME fatigue, impaired vestibular system, balance off, Pupils NEVER equal, disrupted sleep cycles,speech problems.

Cognitive: Cognitive Behavior, Brain fog, impulsivity, speech problems, word finding problems, slowed processing speeds, impaired visual memory, impaired complex attention

Emotional: Unable to handle stress or overstimulation without getting extremely irritable or angry, easily overstimulated, MAJOR depression, major anxiety, Panic attacks

Treatment so far: Treatment for PCS,PTSD,Depression & panic,Vestibular therapy, Physical therapy, Vitamin Schedule,Walking,No Dairy, No eggs, No caffeine, No artificial coloring, Sleep with 2 pillows, Very little sugars consumed, Eat healthy,No alcohol, Medications, limit stress and overstimulation.

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