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Old 02-06-2014, 01:03 AM #1
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Default G Forces, fuzzy vision, popping feeling in spot in head?

Hi guys,

I haven't posted in a while....I have stopped thinking/worrying about my head recently as I have already done all the thinking/worry to last a LONG TIME.

However, yesterday, I met up with a buddy and he took me for a spin in his new sports car...he turns off into a roundabout and because I was pretty baked (I am convinced marijuana HELPS concussions) I did not process fast enough/told him to stop, he drifts the roundabout twice. After the drift, I told him to drive slow cuz my head is now hurting.

I got home and smoked more weed, I got on the computer and thought...what the hell happened to my screen??? The text was slightly weird looking, a tiny bit fuzzy, as if some photo filter had been applied. Same with pictures. I thought Facebook/operating system was updated/glitched or something. Turns out my other computer screen looked like that too. So it wasn't my screen, it was my eyes. Not as noticeable when looking at the room/objects.

The next day (today)
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Assault: July 20 (Assaulted by two ** in the same night. pounded on after I was knocked out for 30-1min **

Symptoms right after injury: Decreased thinking, memory, and attention.

Feel stupider all around.

Head pressure/fog in the head.

Balance is off. Motor coordination in left hand is decreased.

Loss of interest in activities.

Vertigo/dizziness when turning head.

Fatigue.



Started getting left hand tremors middle of November.
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You said, "(I am convinced marijuana HELPS concussions)"

Marijuana helps concussions about the same as alcohol helps one combat the cold. Both numb your senses rather than increase your cognitive abilities.

Your brain needs to work overtime to process the chemical insult from the marijuana. Add some G force trauma and your brain was really struggling.

Neither of these behaviors is going to be good for the long term health of your brain.
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I am convinced marijuana HELPS concussions

I got home and smoked more weed, I got on the computer and thought...what the hell happened to my screen??? So it wasn't my screen, it was my eyes.
Do you perceive any contradictions between these two statements?
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What Happened: On November 29, 2010, I was walking across the street and was hit by a light rail commuter train. Result was a severe traumatic brain injury and multiple fractures (skull, pelvis, ribs). Total hospital stay was two months, one in ICU followed by an additional month in neuro-rehab. Upon hospital discharge, neurological testing revealed deficits in short term memory, executive functioning, and spatial recognition.

Today: Neuropsychological examination five months post-accident indicated a return to normal cognitive functioning, and I returned to work approximately 6 months after the accident. I am grateful to be alive and am looking forward to enjoying the rest of my life.
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You said, "(I am convinced marijuana HELPS concussions)"

Marijuana helps concussions about the same as alcohol helps one combat the cold. Both numb your senses rather than increase your cognitive abilities.

Your brain needs to work overtime to process the chemical insult from the marijuana. Add some G force trauma and your brain was really struggling.

Neither of these behaviors is going to be good for the long term health of your brain.
Ok guys, I actually submitted the thread without finishing it by accident....

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After doing extensive research, I have come to the conclusion that marijuana helps head injuries. Also, watch Dr. Sanjay CNN youtube video and around the 38 mark he talks about how when given marijuana shortly after a head injury it reverses damage(I think that's what he said...I'm baked).

So, where I left off,
Today is two days later, it appears there is quite a bit more damage than initially suspected. My head is super sensitive. Today, looking in the mirror, my eyes look different sizes than the other (eyes are usually even) and they have this weird lifeless look....I notice my head is more swollen than before (it was already swelled). This is not good.....

I am wondering, what is the thing with my eyes? I'm baked, so that may be it. It's not usually like than when I'm baked though. I'm going to email my neurologist right now and try to get an appointment and see what he thinks. I will report back. Right now I'm waiting to get into another rehab program because I have moved away....

** I think that roundabout drift has set me back quite some

How hash became a smash in brain trauma research (news - 1998)
MAPS: How hash became a smash in brain trauma research

Synthetic Marijuana Helps Trauma Patients (news - 1998)
http://www.thecompassionclub.org/med...0603311415-028

Brain Injury Circumvented by Endocannabinoids (abst - 2001)
Brain Injury Circumvented by Endocannabinoids -- 2001 (104): tw380 -- Science Signaling

An endogenous cannabinoid (2-AG) is neuroprotective after brain injury.
(abst - 2001)
An endogenous cannabinoid (2-AG) is neuroprotectiv... [Nature. 2001] - PubMed result

Cannabinoids on the Brain (full - 2002)
http://www.ukcia.org/research/Cannab...OnTheBrain.pdf

Cannabinoids and brain injury: therapeutic implications (full - 2002)
http://www.ukcia.org/research/Cannab...rainInjury.pdf

Dexanabinol (HU-211) in the treatment of severe closed head injury: a randomized, placebo-controlled, phase II clinical trial. (abst - 2002)
Dexanabinol (HU-211) in the treatment of severe cl... [Crit Care Med. 2002] - PubMed result

Marijuana Smoking Doesn't Kill (news - 2003)
Marijuana Smoking Doesn't Kill
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Cannabinoids As Neuroprotective Agents in Traumatic Brain Injury. (abst - 2004)
Bentham Science Publishers

The endocannabinoid 2-AG protects the blood-brain barrier after closed head injury and inhibits mRNA expression of proinflammatory cytokines.
(abst - 2005)
The endocannabinoid 2-AG protects the blood-brain barrier after closed head injury and inhibits mRNA expression of proinflammatory cytokines.

The Cannabinoid CB2 Receptor as a Target for Inflammation-Dependent Neurodegeneration (full - 2006)
The Cannabinoid CB2 Receptor as a Target for Inflammation-Dependent Neurodegeneration

The CB1 Cannabinoid Receptor Mediates Excitotoxicity-induced Neural Progenitor Proliferation and Neurogenesis (full - 2007)
The CB1 Cannabinoid Receptor Mediates Excitotoxicity-induced Neural Progenitor Proliferation and Neurogenesis ? JBC
[QUOTE=Lightrail11;1049296]Do you perceive any contradictions between these two statements?
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Assault: July 20 (Assaulted by two ** in the same night. pounded on after I was knocked out for 30-1min **

Symptoms right after injury: Decreased thinking, memory, and attention.

Feel stupider all around.

Head pressure/fog in the head.

Balance is off. Motor coordination in left hand is decreased.

Loss of interest in activities.

Vertigo/dizziness when turning head.

Fatigue.



Started getting left hand tremors middle of November.
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Yeah, I forgot to finish, that fuzziness was from the roundabout drift....not the marijuana. Just wondering if anyone can touch on what kind of evil had been done to cause that and should I be freaking out because I am. We'll see what the doctor has to say.
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Assault: July 20 (Assaulted by two ** in the same night. pounded on after I was knocked out for 30-1min **

Symptoms right after injury: Decreased thinking, memory, and attention.

Feel stupider all around.

Head pressure/fog in the head.

Balance is off. Motor coordination in left hand is decreased.

Loss of interest in activities.

Vertigo/dizziness when turning head.

Fatigue.



Started getting left hand tremors middle of November.
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Hi guys,

I haven't posted in a while....I have stopped thinking/worrying about my head recently as I have already done all the thinking/worry to last a LONG TIME.

However, yesterday, I met up with a buddy and he took me for a spin in his new sports car...he turns off into a roundabout and because I was pretty baked (I am convinced marijuana HELPS concussions) I did not process fast enough/told him to stop, he drifts the roundabout twice. After the drift, I told him to drive slow cuz my head is now hurting.

I got home and smoked more weed, I got on the computer and thought...what the hell happened to my screen??? The text was slightly weird looking, a tiny bit fuzzy, as if some photo filter had been applied. Same with pictures. I thought Facebook/operating system was updated/glitched or something. Turns out my other computer screen looked like that too. So it wasn't my screen, it was my eyes. Not as noticeable when looking at the room/objects.

The next day (today)
Just happen to be killing some time and came across your post. First off, if there is a sudden onset of visual change, an important piece of info is whether it involves one eye or both. If it is only one eye, consider other causes such as spontaneous retinal tear. If however it involves both eyes, there are new cognitive symptoms or sudden onset of headache, it may well be cerebral. Just odd that a light and gradual "G-force" without striking your head (I assume) would trigger such a cascade of neuro symptoms.

I would also have to agree with the other replies. There is a difference in the effects and consequences of habitual vs short term use of THC. I have not reviewed your attached references, but I would wager that these studies involved shorter term use. By the sounds of your original post, my guess is that you are a habitual user. As an aside, a known side effect of habitual THC use is reduced motivation as well as a reduction in an important neuro chemical implicated in mental wellness called serotonin. Sometimes short term relief of certain symptoms is overshadowed by longer term consequences.

Hope this helps
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Just happen to be killing some time and came across your post. First off, if there is a sudden onset of visual change, an important piece of info is whether it involves one eye or both. If it is only one eye, consider other causes such as spontaneous retinal tear. If however it involves both eyes, there are new cognitive symptoms or sudden onset of headache, it may well be cerebral. Just odd that a light and gradual "G-force" without striking your head (I assume) would trigger such a cascade of neuro symptoms.

I would also have to agree with the other replies. There is a difference in the effects and consequences of habitual vs short term use of THC. I have not reviewed your attached references, but I would wager that these studies involved shorter term use. By the sounds of your original post, my guess is that you are a habitual user. As an aside, a known side effect of habitual THC use is reduced motivation as well as a reduction in an important neuro chemical implicated in mental wellness called serotonin. Sometimes short term relief of certain symptoms is overshadowed by longer term consequences.

Hope this helps
Unfortunately I do not know/did not test whether it was one eye or two eyes.

Regarding the known side effects of thc- any reduction in motivation or any decrease in seratonin will be renounced after a couple days of no use. Maybe longer, up to a week at most. Personally, I only get 'marijuana withdrawal' the following day, where all I want to do is smoke, the day after will be 98% normal, third day I am completely normal/fine.
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Assault: July 20 (Assaulted by two ** in the same night. pounded on after I was knocked out for 30-1min **

Symptoms right after injury: Decreased thinking, memory, and attention.

Feel stupider all around.

Head pressure/fog in the head.

Balance is off. Motor coordination in left hand is decreased.

Loss of interest in activities.

Vertigo/dizziness when turning head.

Fatigue.



Started getting left hand tremors middle of November.
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