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Old 05-19-2014, 05:17 PM #1
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Default Anyone else? re: aphasia

I find that when I'm trying to think of a word and it doesn't quite come to my tongue, aphasia I suppose, my mind starts going 24/7. It's like I develop racing thoughts, but only when I am trying to find the word I want to say. I don't know if I've described it very well. I know this is going to sound odd but I get kind of a mental image of all the thoughts and words that could possibly be in my head at that given time and somebody has gathered them up and is swirling then around really fast in a bundle. It's weird I know. Anyone else get this?
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sounds familiar but sorry can't help with what to do... maybe one of the veterans can help us
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Yes

If word finding issues are new to you since your head injury, it's troubling when you really can't come up with something that you know, "you should know." I am like this with words, facts I know I knew, etc. I then get stuck until I figure it out.

I've found if it's in conversation, I will explain the concept of the world I'm trying to come up with, and allow people to offer suggestions until I come up with the right word. For example if I can't find the word "dog", I will say something like, "you know it's furry, has four legs, people have them as pets... etc." If not, I would be stuck for hours trying to find it.

When it comes to facts, my go to is my google app on my phone. Because again, it will bother me and my mind will obsess until I figure it out. This could take hours, and lots of brain energy.

But yes, it's normal
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Symptoms 3 Years Post: Physical: migraines, infrequent vertigo, neck and back pain (from accident), tinnitus, visual field deficits in left eye, problematic light sensitivity, (including visual seizure activity), noise sensitivity, EXTREME fatigue, semi-frequent disrupted sleep cycles,
Cognitive: semi-frequent Brain fog after cognitive strain, limited bouts of impulsivity, unable to concentrate for more than short periods of time without fatigue, word finding problems, slowed processing speeds, impaired visual memory;
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Yes

If word finding issues are new to you since your head injury, it's troubling when you really can't come up with something that you know, "you should know." I am like this with words, facts I know I knew, etc. I then get stuck until I figure it out.

I've found if it's in conversation, I will explain the concept of the world I'm trying to come up with, and allow people to offer suggestions until I come up with the right word. For example if I can't find the word "dog", I will say something like, "you know it's furry, has four legs, people have them as pets... etc." If not, I would be stuck for hours trying to find it.

When it comes to facts, my go to is my google app on my phone. Because again, it will bother me and my mind will obsess until I figure it out. This could take hours, and lots of brain energy.

But yes, it's normal
It sucks. I've had the tip-of-the-tongue thing before but this is different. I tried googling but I couldn't even get close enough to what I was trying to think of to make a proper search. It's so frustrating. I'm grateful there are others who are going through the same thing. My mom's a nurse and she knows all the book stuff and she and my dad and everyone else have been very supportive but it's different than knowing firsthand.
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Yes

If word finding issues are new to you since your head injury, it's troubling when you really can't come up with something that you know, "you should know." I am like this with words, facts I know I knew, etc. I then get stuck until I figure it out.

I've found if it's in conversation, I will explain the concept of the world I'm trying to come up with, and allow people to offer suggestions until I come up with the right word. For example if I can't find the word "dog", I will say something like, "you know it's furry, has four legs, people have them as pets... etc." If not, I would be stuck for hours trying to find it.

When it comes to facts, my go to is my google app on my phone. Because again, it will bother me and my mind will obsess until I figure it out. This could take hours, and lots of brain energy.

But yes, it's normal
Classic TBI aphasia: you can describe something, down to the last detail, but can't come up with its name.
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My word of the day was "earmark." Took a good hour to get it.
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My word of the day was "earmark." Took a good hour to get it.
Yeah, not a lot of synonyms for that one.
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I find that when I'm trying to think of a word and it doesn't quite come to my tongue, aphasia I suppose, my mind starts going 24/7. It's like I develop racing thoughts, but only when I am trying to find the word I want to say.
This is fairly common, I had word finding difficulties the first couple of months of my recovery, and resolved after that.

Your injury is still fairly recent and I suspect you will see improvement. Speech therapy may be helpful.
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Yup. Been happening a lot lately in conversations with my wife. When it happens I just stop talking. She has figured it out and usually gives me a clue or ups my train of thought and im able to figure it out. If I still cant get it then she knows the conversation is over.
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Socks,

This is a common frustration. The anxiety of thoughts rushing is likely due to you trying to hard. It only makes it worse for me. My trick is to look around the room and sort of distract my mind with other images and words. It works some times as my mind lets go of the search and switches between the other stimuli.

Don't let it get to you. It will only make it worse.

Hope my trick helps. My best to you.
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