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Old 05-21-2014, 11:09 AM #1
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I have been wondering about something maybe someone here has some experience with... Everytime I do something to cause a relapse I tend to start salivating more than usual for a few days, I also get this kind of gagging feeling in my throat, no nausea just this constant gagging feeling along with the exessive saliva. Could this be neck related, I got a whiplash along with my first concussion in october '13 so that might be what is causing these issues, or is it more of a "brainsymptom"? Any thoughts or ideas are very appreciated! Thanks
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I'd look up cranial nerves and see if there is a group of nerves that control these functions. Wiki has a good description http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cranial...taste_.28IX.29
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Drooling can be a symptom of TBI:
"Drooling in anoxic brain injury is due to impaired neuromuscular control where the voluntary oral (mouth/throat) motor activity stops functioning leading to an overflow of saliva from the mouth. The affected person will have inefficient and infrequent swallowing. Other problems that worsen drooling are positioning due to poor head control and decreased neck strength..."

It can go the other way, too. In my case, the whiplash/tbi damaged my saliva glands and I suffer from dry mouth and swallowing problems.
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Thank you both for your answers!

Hockey, would this mean it's a symptom of a NEW concussion or would it be possible for this symptom to come and go during recovery or relapses? Hmmm I find it settles if I rest for a while and when I take a walk or something it starts up again
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possible trigger points also ??
http://www.triggerpoints.net/symptom...-shoulders.htm

I had a choking/gagging feeling when my top rib was stuck & raised up- might have happened to you -
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=top+rib+mo...ion+techniques
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Thank you so much for that link! I have been looking for someplace to explain what that site just did in such a simple way! Great! And thanks for the advice, I will look into it!
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Thank you both for your answers!

Hockey, would this mean it's a symptom of a NEW concussion or would it be possible for this symptom to come and go during recovery or relapses? Hmmm I find it settles if I rest for a while and when I take a walk or something it starts up again
Your symptoms can act up WITHOUT a new concussion. TBI patients find stress, fatigue, alcohol consumption, excessive heat, neck movement, etc... can trigger negative responses. Heck, a good sneeze can have me back in the fog.
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I have to second Mark and JoMar.

I have a really bad cervical and thoracic spine area since my TBI was caused in an auto accident were I got rear-ended. Like JoMar, my top ribs were messed up from my accident and it took a year of physical therapy to get them to stay where they are supposed to, but they are still painful and my muscles around them have major trigger points.
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What Happened: On 3/8/11 I was stopped waiting to merge into traffic when I was rear ended by someone doing 45 mph. I walked away from the accident, to fall into the pit of PCS 5 days later... (I have had 2 previous concussions, but neither developed into PCS.)

Symptoms 3 Years Post: Physical: migraines, infrequent vertigo, neck and back pain (from accident), tinnitus, visual field deficits in left eye, problematic light sensitivity, (including visual seizure activity), noise sensitivity, EXTREME fatigue, semi-frequent disrupted sleep cycles,
Cognitive: semi-frequent Brain fog after cognitive strain, limited bouts of impulsivity, unable to concentrate for more than short periods of time without fatigue, word finding problems, slowed processing speeds, impaired visual memory;
Emotional: easily overstimulated, depression, anxiety;

Treatment so far: Vestibular therapy; Physical Therapy; Vision Therapy; Vitamin Schedule; Limited caffeine; Medications; attempting to limit stress and overstimulation; Yoga; Cognitive Therapy
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JoMar-

WOW!!! You just opened my eyes! I now have a greater understanding of the "random" pain I have, (i.e. referred pain!)

Will definitely talk to my physiatrist!
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What Happened: On 3/8/11 I was stopped waiting to merge into traffic when I was rear ended by someone doing 45 mph. I walked away from the accident, to fall into the pit of PCS 5 days later... (I have had 2 previous concussions, but neither developed into PCS.)

Symptoms 3 Years Post: Physical: migraines, infrequent vertigo, neck and back pain (from accident), tinnitus, visual field deficits in left eye, problematic light sensitivity, (including visual seizure activity), noise sensitivity, EXTREME fatigue, semi-frequent disrupted sleep cycles,
Cognitive: semi-frequent Brain fog after cognitive strain, limited bouts of impulsivity, unable to concentrate for more than short periods of time without fatigue, word finding problems, slowed processing speeds, impaired visual memory;
Emotional: easily overstimulated, depression, anxiety;

Treatment so far: Vestibular therapy; Physical Therapy; Vision Therapy; Vitamin Schedule; Limited caffeine; Medications; attempting to limit stress and overstimulation; Yoga; Cognitive Therapy
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Your symptoms can act up WITHOUT a new concussion. TBI patients find stress, fatigue, alcohol consumption, excessive heat, neck movement, etc... can trigger negative responses. Heck, a good sneeze can have me back in the fog.
That is very true, and I think that is what I'm experiencing right not. All of the above have been very present the last week, except for the alcohol consumtion. I have been sneezing like crazy due to allergies hehe maybe not so great for the neck/brain, I try to stay as still as possible but oh my sometimes they have some great force to them and come when you least expect it haha! It's really a challenge to minimize the triggers!
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