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Old 08-21-2014, 04:46 AM #1
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So tonight I was out drinking with some friends, it's beenpnths since my initial concussion so I've been drinking recently without any substantial problems. While I was drunk me and my mate were messing around and he shoved me two or three times jokingly. These were decently hard shoves and one of them cause me to stumble back into a wall. They weren't ridiculously violent, but decently so, and I didn't not hit my head at all. I feel dizzy/lightheaded and whatnot now but I aril haven't slept and I'm sure it's mainly from the drinking and lack of food. Could I have gotten a concussion from this? Will I be alright? Should I stop drinking/smoking? I quite alarmed any advice would help, thank you
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I'm not the best person to answer this, but it seems unlikely you got a concussion from this, most likely it is the alcohol.

I don't really drink much, but have noticed when I do the immediate effects and the after effects are much stronger than previous.
Generally everyone recommends staying away from alcohol. Personally I don't think alcohol has enough positives to make me want to risk my cognitive function worsening, so I'd say you're better off not drinking....
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So tonight I was out drinking with some friends, it's beenpnths since my initial concussion so I've been drinking recently without any substantial problems.

Should I stop drinking/smoking? I quite alarmed any advice would help, thank you
Not to be preachy, but in the interest of making better informed choices two articles on this topic are attached.

http://www.msktc.org/tbi/factsheets/...c-Brain-Injury

http://www.tbicommunity.org/resource...Spring2008.pdf
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Today: Neuropsychological examination five months post-accident indicated a return to normal cognitive functioning, and I returned to work approximately 6 months after the accident. I am grateful to be alive and am looking forward to enjoying the rest of my life.
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whenever I think I may have done something to re-injure myself the first question I ask myself is.. Is this as bad as the initial blow that gave me the initial injury... so far the answer has been no... so then I think what have I done to make my head worse... drinking and smoking could be it... or just too much stimulation for an extended period of time...

Just things to think about...
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The Start: MVA, t-boned, on 1-12-14 (my sons 5th birthday) and did not think anything of it.. my back hurt on site but everything else seemed ok. Lost about 10-12 hours from about 3 hours after the accident to the next day...Experienced terrible brain fog for over a month, plus intense headaches, nausea, dizziness, cognitive difficulties, disorientation, no short term memory, depression and just an overall hangover feeling daily.

Current Situation: I'm about 7 months in and my local neurologist has waived her white flag and therefore I am headed to Dallas to be seen (I have family there). The headaches are still daily. I have nausea, dizziness as well.

Drugs I have been on- Vicodin (off), Naproxen (off), proanolol (off), topamax (off), cataflam (off), Midrin (off), Flexeril (off) and now Namenda XR (off), Nortrptylin (off), Verapamil (off)

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Having a drink is not usually a problem. Getting drunk definitely is. You are changing the chemical processes in brain that already has struggles. Getting drunk can be as damaging to the brain as a concussion, especially if the brain is in a weakened state.

When I had my third bout with PCS at 16, my neuro wisely told me to never drink. Years later, when I tried to drink, a single tall beer messed me up.

So, you have a choice to make. Do you live a risky lifestyle and suffer the repeat effects of PCS or do you reduce your risk level so you life can be more stable ?

Once concussed, always concussed. That means your system will always be sensitive.

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Thanks for the replies everyone. I know I've barely drinking at all and I don't "binge" drink. But do you think I could've done any damage by being pushed?
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Probably no damage but you could take yourself back to day one of your concussion recovery. Do not get drunk or even buzzed.
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alright will do, however something else happened to me last night.
I was sitting on a couch just watching TV and my uncle walks by and lightly slaps my head in a friendly manner. I was really tired at that point (long day of work) so i couldn't really differentiate between possible symptoms and simply being tired. It was quite the light slap, but im still curious would this compound with what happened over the weekend or is it all just too light to even have any significance whatsoever? Thanks
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I would say that it would not have compounded with the other injury... but that is my opinion
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The Start: MVA, t-boned, on 1-12-14 (my sons 5th birthday) and did not think anything of it.. my back hurt on site but everything else seemed ok. Lost about 10-12 hours from about 3 hours after the accident to the next day...Experienced terrible brain fog for over a month, plus intense headaches, nausea, dizziness, cognitive difficulties, disorientation, no short term memory, depression and just an overall hangover feeling daily.

Current Situation: I'm about 7 months in and my local neurologist has waived her white flag and therefore I am headed to Dallas to be seen (I have family there). The headaches are still daily. I have nausea, dizziness as well.

Drugs I have been on- Vicodin (off), Naproxen (off), proanolol (off), topamax (off), cataflam (off), Midrin (off), Flexeril (off) and now Namenda XR (off), Nortrptylin (off), Verapamil (off)

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Drs- ER (no help), GP, Chiropractor, Neurologist and Osteopath
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Mark, your statement

"Once concussed, always concussed. That means your system will always be sensitive."

scares me a lot, to be honest.

Is it possible that a minor concussion, with no headaches but just dizziness in the days after, going to haunt me forever? And why is that?

I take what you said seriously, view your expertise and the fact that i managed to bring back my symptoms a month later after vigorous running...

It would be really depressing to have to stay away from alcohol for more than 6 months...

I do not mean to change the discussion but i guess everyone would appreciate a clarification of your above sentence...

Thanks a lot as usual.
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