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Old 08-22-2014, 07:36 PM #1
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Confused "Coma" Naps

Almost everyday (typically in the afternoon), I experience what I have nicknamed "coma naps". This is because I fall asleep so quickly and sometimes feel like I have no choice. The sensation is like cement filling my brain until my body says "enough". While I am asleep, I sleep so deeply that I don't wake up for a few hours (2-3 hrs). I have had to be shook awake on some occasions. Other times I have slept through dogs barking, someone coming to visit, fire alarms, phone calls and alarms. I have been having these for 7 months now. I have to use sleeping pills at night to sleep, and I do sleep pretty good through the night.

Neurologist and family doctor are not concerned; however they leave me feeling uneasy. Especially with school is starting again and I have to get up in time to pick up my son at the bus stop. Does anyone else experience this?
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Driver to driver head-on. I was stationary and the other vehicle hit me traveling > 110 km/hr successfully breaking my sternum.
Diagnosed with chronic neuropathic pain, PTSD, somatic symptom disorder, depression, anxiety. I suffer from daily headaches, 24x7.
Meds: On prescription medication for neuropathic pain, breakthrough pain, anxiety, depression and sleep disorder.
OTC medications used to try and keep headaches in check: acetaminophen and ibuprofen.
Treatments: Physio (declined since May '14), RMT (declined since Feb '14), Psychiatry CBT (since Nov '13), Pain Clinic Nerve Blocks, Botox and Lidocaine Infusion (since May '14), SLP (since Aug '14), OT (since Sep '14).
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Almost everyday (typically in the afternoon), I experience what I have nicknamed "coma naps". This is because I fall asleep so quickly and sometimes feel like I have no choice. The sensation is like cement filling my brain until my body says "enough". While I am asleep, I sleep so deeply that I don't wake up for a few hours (2-3 hrs). I have had to be shook awake on some occasions. Other times I have slept through dogs barking, someone coming to visit, fire alarms, phone calls and alarms. I have been having these for 7 months now. I have to use sleeping pills at night to sleep, and I do sleep pretty good through the night.

Neurologist and family doctor are not concerned; however they leave me feeling uneasy. Especially with school is starting again and I have to get up in time to pick up my son at the bus stop. Does anyone else experience this?
It's almost like a sleep attack, isn't it? Do you dream during these episodes?
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They are not going to be concerned unless it is life-threatening IMHO.

I have these naps when I push myself beyond my limit.
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I had these right after accident for several months, I'd just fall asleep, no control over it and didn't know it happened until I'd wake up.

Didn't happen for months then now funnily enough they are back and I am extremely stressed over a lot of things.

My neuro didn't seem concerned either.
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I suggest you consider sleep apnea. Daytime sleepiness is often due to poor oxygenation during sleep.

I have sleep apnea and when I have an episode, I will have those same coma naps. I have been able to control my sleep apnea so these events are very rare now. They used to happen multiple times per week.
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It's almost like a sleep attack, isn't it? Do you dream during these episodes?
No, I don't dream at all.
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Driver to driver head-on. I was stationary and the other vehicle hit me traveling > 110 km/hr successfully breaking my sternum.
Diagnosed with chronic neuropathic pain, PTSD, somatic symptom disorder, depression, anxiety. I suffer from daily headaches, 24x7.
Meds: On prescription medication for neuropathic pain, breakthrough pain, anxiety, depression and sleep disorder.
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I suggest you consider sleep apnea. Daytime sleepiness is often due to poor oxygenation during sleep.

I have sleep apnea and when I have an episode, I will have those same coma naps. I have been able to control my sleep apnea so these events are very rare now. They used to happen multiple times per week.
Interesting… I will investigate this further. Thanks.
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Driver to driver head-on. I was stationary and the other vehicle hit me traveling > 110 km/hr successfully breaking my sternum.
Diagnosed with chronic neuropathic pain, PTSD, somatic symptom disorder, depression, anxiety. I suffer from daily headaches, 24x7.
Meds: On prescription medication for neuropathic pain, breakthrough pain, anxiety, depression and sleep disorder.
OTC medications used to try and keep headaches in check: acetaminophen and ibuprofen.
Treatments: Physio (declined since May '14), RMT (declined since Feb '14), Psychiatry CBT (since Nov '13), Pain Clinic Nerve Blocks, Botox and Lidocaine Infusion (since May '14), SLP (since Aug '14), OT (since Sep '14).
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No, I don't dream at all.
I figured. That is so TBI. Do you dream during "regular" sleep?
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Oh yeah I remember those. That horrible, awful, nearly nauseaous feeling of impending afternoon sleep, which on waking, made me feel worse.

I think there is some research being done about concussion sleep. At any rate, it's like nothing I've ever had before. Gail Denton describes it in BrainLashed (her book) or I think she does.

I think it's the brain working to heal. It could be more too, but I am not sure. You might want a doc to check it for other issues.

Hang in there.

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[SIZE="1"]What happened. I was in a car accident 2-23-2013, and got a mild concussion from it. I had some time off for brain rest, got somewhat better, but slipped into PCS in March 2013.

Symptoms I had: dizziness, light and sound sensitivity, fatigue, tinitis, occasional headaches and migraines,

Symptoms as of 5--2013: poor sleep, tinitis, some confusion /short term memory blanks, balance. The other symptoms are mostly gone, but flare up if I OVERdo something.

Therapy I had: vestibular

3 months in: I could drive more and for longer distances. I felt like a younger, happier version of myself and I feel so blessed to have this feeling.

9 months in and I am working full time. I do get tired, and some sound and light sensitivity from time to time, but mostly I am over most of my symptoms.
I pray every day and I m praying for your recovery.

Over a year in: I can multi task (limited) and have humor in my life. But when I am tired, I am very tired.
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Interesting about the sleep apnea, I'm actually going for a sleep study in early September.

Now I do remember my Dr thinking the sleep episodes were the brain trying to heal.

I notice you say yours last for 2-3 hours, mine are only for about 10-20 mins or so.

Don't know how you sleep at night? do you wake up a lot? My sleep is awful, constantly wake up and have tremors.

When I get the episodes during the day though, it's not like oh i'm just going to take a nap as I feel so tired, it just happens so suddenly and my head has sometimes just gone downwards, if I'm sitting up, only know that when I wake up as i never remember actually falling asleep.

It just feels different somehow.
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